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Best combo of traditional lines & sailing ablility

Jeff,
The elliptic top & triangular bottom is interesting & I can see what you mean. As I look into & at various boats I seldom fail to let out a short sigh at the top-side appearance of the reasonably modern (read: reasonably well sailing) boats available. While I don''t necessary need external brightwork everywhere it seems like there are the traditional boats that I really like the appearance of and the more modern boats that sail better but (to my eye) basically all look the same.

Despite the elliptic vs triangle mis-match I wonder if a designer could(or why they haven''t) come up with good match between traditional top-sides(appearance) & modern hull without it looking like some sort of mutation. Naturally, at this point it would be a (semi-)custom boat & beyond my means, but you''d think there would be some demand for a craft like this. Look at the auto industry...having approached exhaustion with how many ways can a car look like an elongated bubble they now "advance" ("forward...into the past") into a retro-look in the attempt to garner some sales.

I''ll look into the other boats mentioned, but so far it looks like I favor a better sailor over vanilla topsides (sigh).
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I am not sure that one can really make a boat which takes full advantage of modern design principles,but which also looks traditional above the waterline and still has the currently expected levels of comfort, for all sorts of reasons. One of the big things that I did not mention is that a 32 foot traditional watercraft would have had narrow decks located deep into the bilge and still would not have as much headroom as we expect out of boats today. When you consider the shallow canoe bodies of a modern design and the need to some how cram a lot of headroom into small boats, you suddenly end up with boats that have enormous freeboard and comparatively little sheer.

That said a number of builders have tried to create more classic looking boats. The Hanse has a slightly more traditional feel to it. The J-32 is another boat that done in a traditional dark colors appears somewhat more traditional than many.

Otherwise I am not sure what to tell you. To some extent I have wrestled with these issues myself over the years. Depending on where I lived and what my lifestyle was, I have owned traditional boats (1939 Stadel Cutter, and a 1949 Folkboat for example) and I have owned more modern boats. When it comes to sailing abilities, the modern boats win in all conditions, but the traditional boats are very interesting to sail when the winds are moderate and you have no where in particular to go.

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i am young, 21 years old, naive. and probably don''t have the experience others do around here. i have been to both the hinckley and morris yards, and have seen what they do. they both offer beautiful, great boats,(nothing catches my eye quite like a good ole hinckley 35 pilot) though they are a bit overpriced (to say the least).

its hard to say whats good for you in that range. but i wouldn''t look past a pacific seacraft 34 if you can afford it. though slow, its seaworthy and beautiful (unless you can''t stand a canoe stern). also, checkout sabre''s 34 mk2. a good looking semi-modern boat that won''t do you wrong.

if those are out of your price range, checkout a pearson 34-2, P-33, or a P-303 for value from the late 1980''s. for coastal cruising you can''t go wrong with those models- a great deal ( i grew up on a P-28 and have fallen in love with em). just my two cents.
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