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Why I like a full keel

Sad story-about a month ago a fellow that lived aboard his Endeavor on the Merrimac disappeared and is thought to have drowned. His dog was found tied to a tree, his dingy swamped and his cell phone on the cabin table. Extensive search of the river found no body. I'd spoken to him weeks before about his cruising dreams. Went to look at his boat hauled in a parking lot and observed the mooring line wrapped around his prop. I could imagine him leaning out of his dink trying to disentangle the line from his prop and falling in. Current is too fast to swim against and the water too cold to survive.

For all the extra speed and pointing ability you get with a deep fin, I'd not trade it for the security of a protected prop in an aperture.
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Re: Why I like a full keel

Granted my full exposed prop is easier to wrap a rope/line around it than a full keel........BUT, ANY moving thing like a prop, lawn mower blade etal, no matter how protected, can and will get things in it, and will fail. The question at the end of the day, is how much chance does one have of having this failure, and how does one protect themselves from this failure?

At the end of the day, this allows multiple of boat designs, styles etc to be on the market, to fit yours and my needs. For how and where I sail, a full keel is not what I call fun, a fin, CB, dagger board boat that can plane at times, go over hull speed with out thinking twice etc is why I sail. many like myself will take the little bit of extra chance that a line will foul a prop etc. Then again, I do not live in an area with too many crab/lobster pots, but they do exist. I have seen and heard of more issues with large logs/dead heads etc here in puget sound than lines. Or when you do find a shallow, it is usually VERY solid!

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Re: Why I like a full keel

We had a full keel boat that caught a crab trap on a cold November day. Just sayin....
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Re: Why I like a full keel

Years ago, when I was a mere child, we had a horrific drowning here at a Marina my father worked at. Guy was drunk and in the middle of the night, fell between the boat and the dock and landed waist deep in the thick mud that covers the bottom of the back bays here in NJ. To judge by the marks on his boat.. as the tide came up, he was scratching and clawing for he was worth to get aboard.

Sadly they found him in the next day when the tide went back down.

We can only guess that a full keel boat may have prevented that death as it would need more depth at it's slip.

But back to the Original Topic. a spinning prop is a magnet for lines.. you could have it totally shrouded and it would still find a way to suck a line in and wrap it tight.
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Re: Why I like a full keel

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We can only guess that a full keel boat may have prevented that death as it would need more depth at it's slip.


What does the style of a keel have to do with its depth?
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Re: Why I like a full keel

A spurs line cutter is no guarantee, but it will do wonders. I know first hand, as I grabbed a line about 30nm off Boston a couple of years back in the month of June. That would have been a nasty place to have to go in the water. I had to go to neutral and then reverse to get it to cut, but it chunked right off. Thank goodness!!
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Re: Why I like a full keel

Several years ago on the west coast of Vancouver Island (entrance channel to Tofino for those who know the area) a guy that had anchored near us caught a crab trap line in his prop. Full keel, prop in an aperture (Cape George 36). He was in the water for two hours cutting the wadded up line out. No guarantees. This very experienced sailor also ran aground twice that same day and spent a couple hours battling 20+' seas before coming back to the anchorage. Bad day.
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Sad story-about a month ago a fellow that lived aboard his Endeavor on the Merrimac disappeared and is thought to have drowned. His dog was found tied to a tree, his dingy swamped and his cell phone on the cabin table. Extensive search of the river found no body. I'd spoken to him weeks before about his cruising dreams. Went to look at his boat hauled in a parking lot and observed the mooring line wrapped around his prop. I could imagine him leaning out of his dink trying to disentangle the line from his prop and falling in. Current is too fast to swim against and the water too cold to survive.

For all the extra speed and pointing ability you get with a deep fin, I'd not trade it for the security of a protected prop in an aperture.
The only boats that I ever caught a line on the prop was my 1939 Stadel Cutter which could not have had a fuller keel. So much for that theory and false sense of security.
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Re: Why I like a full keel

This is one of many reasons my boat has no engine
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This is one of many reasons my boat has no engine
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