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Re: Are Boats Built in the 70's Just Too Tired

Well, the GulfStar 50 we lost on our way to Europe was a 1975. We had spent 5 years and well into the 6 figures upgrading and restoring as much as we could.

So, though I wouldn't say not to buy a 1970s boat, I would support going further than we did and also replace the CHAINPLATES!!!
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Re: Are Boats Built in the 70's Just Too Tired

BenMerc makes good points
?has it gone through freeze thaw cycles
?is it on stands or in a cradle
? was it outside or in heated indoor storage
?stick in or out
?how was it decommissioned

Last boat I bought was decommissioned correctly and stored inside under light cover for several years. On survey clearly made a difference.
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Re: Are Boats Built in the 70's Just Too Tired

After we lost that 1975 GulfStar, one of the first things we said to each other, (besides all the: great to have dodged that bullet, comments), was that we would next buy a NEWER, bigger, better vessel.

So, we bought a 1986 Tai Chiao CT 56, and I have been amazed at the differences in the condition of the wiring, the plumbing, and practically EVERYTHING which I have had my fingers and tools into.

So, for whatever it is worth to you, if you can negotiate a 1980s boat price down to what you can afford, you will save yourself a LOT of work, time and money, as you restore her.

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Well, the GulfStar 50 we lost on our way to Europe was a 1975. We had spent 5 years and well into the 6 figures upgrading and restoring as much as we could.

So, though I wouldn't say not to buy a 1970s boat, I would support going further than we did and also replace the CHAINPLATES!!!
Yea, our CD has some interesting chainplate backings, I basically have to cut the liner to access them. That's the scariest thing we have encountered so far with restoring a 70's boat. It's an easy thing to fix, though, relative to other problems that could be had.
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Re: Are Boats Built in the 70's Just Too Tired

Also...something I have considered with boats on the hard for extended stays...proper cradle...I hope these insights have helped, if you had not considered them.
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Re: Are Boats Built in the 70's Just Too Tired

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"B. On surveyors: Your surveyor must go up the mast."
On what planet?
As Paul says, I've never met or even heard of a surveyor who goes up the mast. Riggers go up the mast, no one else routinely does. You want a surveyor to go aloft, you call a rigger and get a rigging survey. From a rigger. You want an engine tested, you get an engine survey, from a mechanic. General surveyors don't do detailed engine tests, either.
A surveyor? Yeah, checks the boat for many things, and doesn't check others. Might tell you there are rats in the rope locker, won't tell you how many there are.
Surveyor up the stick? Yeah, reminds me of why the angel on top of the xmas tree has such a surprised look on her face. (Oooooh!)
Our surveyor went up our mast.
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Re: Are Boats Built in the 70's Just Too Tired

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Yea, our CD has some interesting chainplate backings, I basically have to cut the liner to access them. That's the scariest thing we have encountered so far with restoring a 70's boat. It's an easy thing to fix, though, relative to other problems that could be had.
Agree... Chain plate replacement and even structural up-grade is an essential with many vessels! With my old Irwin it was easy access, and the chain plates are adequate for what this old gal is designed for...but when I checked the bolts, the heads popped right off! Was an easy fix...the scary thing was, the guy prior to me was 'racing' her...and also with a depressed, rusted out base compression post...CRAZY!
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Also...something I have considered with boats on the hard for extended stays...proper cradle...I hope these insights have helped, if you had not considered them.
They have, thanks. Most of the boats I looked at were in the water, but walking around the yard I've seen a few that looked like they've been on the hard for a long time. It just sparked my curiosity on the effects of the boat being out of the water that long.
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Our surveyor went up our mast.
Yes so did ours. I wouldnt hire one who didnt. He was very thorough with the mast and rigging as well as everything else.
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Re: Are Boats Built in the 70's Just Too Tired

Come on, Dave. Sending his check up the main halyard without a downhaul just isn't fair.

If he went up on his own, he deserves some public praise. By name, you know.
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