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FoggyBottom 01-29-2013 06:25 PM

Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
Anyone have a suggestion for a trailerable sailboat, 25' or less, that has a real head and not a portapotty?

Rhys05 01-29-2013 07:12 PM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
My S2 7.9 currently has a portapotty, but if we end up planning to do some extensive cruising (week+) I'll probably get one of the composting heads (Airhead, etc.). I saw them at the Strictly Sail boat show last weekend, and I like the concept much better than the port-a-potty. Seems likely that you could add a marine toilet to any boat you wanted, just all depends on how much you want to spend. I like the self-contained nature of the composting head on a smaller boat, not having to have hoses and a box o' stinky stuff elsewhere on the boat seems like a plus. That said, I have seen at least one Catalina 25 advertised with a marine head..

denverd0n 01-30-2013 10:27 AM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
I don't think it exists. At least, I've never seen any trailer sailer that came with a marine head, rather than a porta-potty. Of course, you can install a head in almost any boat, if you really want to.

But I think that if a "real" marine head is on your absolutely must have list, then you should give up on the idea of a trailer sailer. And if a trailer sailer is an absolute must, then you should accept a porta-potty as part of the trade-off.

Rhys05 01-30-2013 10:30 AM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
A swing keel Catalina 25, on a trailer, with a marine head:
1987 Catalina 25

MarkCK 01-30-2013 11:32 AM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
Check out the Rhodes 22. One of there big advertising points is real head. Although there isn't much privacy when you use it.

peoples1234 01-30-2013 11:38 AM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
Beneteau First 235

Mobnets 01-30-2013 12:37 PM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
Rob Roy 23

Mobnets
1973 Paceship Chance 32/28 "Westwind"

bobmcgov 01-30-2013 12:37 PM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
Good call from Rhys. S2 makes a number of boats -- tho their numbering system prevents me from recalling which ones -- with something like a real enclosed head. A couple of their lifting keel models use the keel box as one wall of the head compartment. As a bonus, S2s tend to sail pretty well.:)

And of course, the Mac26 powersailors have a private head space. Set up for a portapot, but you might fit an electric or manual head in there. Remember, tho, that a head needs a holding tank, which is bulky and difficult to site on a small boat. Many higher-end portapotties have fittings to plumb them for venting and pumpout. That, IMO, is where you ought to be looking.

Dedicated heads take up more space than than trailersailers offer. Hell, I'm having fits trying to physically fit a head on a 30'er, and whatever we come up with, it will be semi-alfresco. There is no expectation of privacy on a small boat. Shy bladders need not apply.:o

Rhys05 01-30-2013 12:45 PM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
Yep, my S2 has an enclosed head (uses a curtain for the door). Keel box on one side, bulkhead behind, and the hull of the boat on the other. Like I said, currently has a port-a-potty, but will likely go to a composting head before too long (likely before we ever use the port-a-potty...). Here's an S2 6.9 (smaller sister ship to the 7.9) that has the same layout. Again, likely comes with a port-a-potty, but the head is enclosed and could easily be converted to composting.
1983 S2 6.9 sailboat for sale in North Carolina

bobmcgov 01-30-2013 01:33 PM

Re: Recommend for trailer sailer with a real head?
 
That 6.9 is a nice-looking boat. One thing to watch out for re: composters is their height. They are ~5-7" taller than typical heads or PPs, tho roughly similar in footprint. We also are leaning composter, but one reason we are having to move it aft is there isn't enuf headroom forward (on a 30'er!). I highly advise building a mockup before plonking $1k on an airhead. I nested two 5gal buckets & added a hinged lid the size of the Airhead's. That gives us the 19" height of the real thing & lets us sit on it in various places. Right by the companionway, where headroom is 6', the mockup barely fits.

Same for the OP: research marine toilets you might want, knock together a model (including room for the pump handle) & see if you could fit it on prospective trailer sailers. Then find a box the size of a 7 gallon holding tank, & try to site that. You'll quickly see the virtues of a plumbed portajohn. Thetford and SeaLand make some nice ones, even models with electric flush. Far cheaper than a full marine head system, too.


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