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1st Time Buyer looking at a Choey Lee 27 MkII

This would be my first sailboat. I'm looking for a sailboat on the cheap to see if it is something I will stick with. I live in the Seattle Area and would use the boat for Cruising San Juans and maybe a Trip Up to Victoria etc... Weekend camping as well.

I saw this boat on CL

27' Cheoy Lee Sailboat on Trailer - $4000 has a Yanmar Diesel and needs Deck replaced, if you search Seattle boats for sale you can see it.

I like the Idea of the Inboard Diesel VS Outboard... are there any advantages to an outboard other then space savings?

I do have a pretty good collection of woodworking tools Table saw, Band saw, Router table, jointer, 12" Disc Sander... So the ability to fix the Deck shouldnt be an issue as long as I have a good Fiberglass deck to start with. I can also do Fiberglass work as well. I troubleshoot electrical systems for aircraft for a living so the the wiring is a cinch.

Mainly I dont know if this is a good first boat as far as learning to sail. And if I like sailing, moving up to a bigger boat. Can I resell this boat?

I have a guy I work with that is an experienced sailor and said he can help me learn. He likes the boat except for the wood aspect of it and seems to think that might hurt the ability to sell it in the future.

I would like to hear from Choey Lee Offshore MKII owners or people experienced in the boat.
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Re: 1st Time Buyer looking at a Choey Lee 27 MkII

Outboards are cheaper to service and replace, have no drag when sailing, and can help with tight manuvering. They don't work as well on rough seas, are noisier, and consume more fuel. The cheaper to replace matters a lot if you are on a budget.

That boat sounds like it needs a lot of work. If you like working on boats and have the hours to do it then it could be a cheap way in. However you can probably find a 25-27' boat which needs a lot less time and money invested then that one.

Moorage around here is about $250-300/mo for a boat of that size. Recurring costs overwhelm purchase costs so much that buying a boat that requires tons of work probably makes little financial sense.
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Re: 1st Time Buyer looking at a Choey Lee 27 MkII

Well nothing will make you think that you will not stay with sailing more than a fixer up boat! Especially if it needs deck work. Something that would be easy to discourage you to not finish! Choy Lee boats are kind of a mixed bag, they had very spotty quality control, and from my search it appears as though almost anything could wind up in the deck core. Balsa, plywood, scraps of teak, small critters, kind of like a box of chocolates. There are good ones out there, but mostly those would be the ones that have been cared for well. Don't get me wrong they can be beautiful boats.

If you really just want to see if it is something you want to do, I think it would be wise to get a production boat that will be easier to maintain. Find a Catalina/Hunter/Oday/Pearson/Venture.... the list could go on and on. Getting a Choy Lee is kind of like getting an old Jaguar for your first car. Yea, they look great, and even perform when they run, but you will be cashing mechanical issues for ever. In the case of the Choy Lee to re do the decks properly (replace teak with teak) will cost many many times what you are paying. Check out the price of teak, it is really expensive. If you just strip the teak and fix core, then cover with fiberglass, again you are talking a few times the purchase price and hundreds of hours working on it, instead of sailing. If you want a project to use your tools and don't really want to sail get the Choy Lee, but if you want to sail, get a decent production boat and go sailing. None of your plans really scream blue water, and you won't be going to crazy for a few years anyway. So get experience and then if you really want a blue water cruiser, think about it for your second boat.
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Re: 1st Time Buyer looking at a Choey Lee 27 MkII

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...... Getting a Choy Lee is kind of like getting an old Jaguar for your first car. Yea, they look great, and even perform when they run, but ...
Good advice and a great analogy there, Paul...

To the OP.. try not to get fixated on any one particular design or 'deal'.. set a budget and patiently hunt for the best boat that fits into that. It is more or less a buyers' market so you will do well eventually.
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Re: 1st Time Buyer looking at a Choey Lee 27 MkII

Ended up buying a Cal29. It is sail ready just needs bottom paint and at worst topside paint. Solid boat, good sail inventory, inboard engine is down, but came with a decent outboard and bracket. I was able to find another Atomic4 cheap that needed reassembly. Done with the reassembly and saving so e cash for a freshwater cooling setup before running it in saltwater. Block is completely been machined and is fresh.

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Ended up buying a Cal29. It is sail ready just needs bottom paint and at worst topside paint. Solid boat, good sail inventory, inboard engine is down, but came with a decent outboard and bracket. I was able to find another Atomic4 cheap that needed reassembly. Done with the reassembly and saving so e cash for a freshwater cooling setup before running it in saltwater. Block is completely been machined and is fresh.

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Re: 1st Time Buyer looking at a Choey Lee 27 MkII

Cal 29 is ten times the boat that Cheoy Lee ever was. You made a very wide choice.
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Re: 1st Time Buyer looking at a Choey Lee 27 MkII

My experience of owning a 30yr old boat in good to go condition says don't touch a boat which needs new decks unless you are prepared for SERIOUS amounts of work and no sailing. Even good to go condition requires constant upkeep.
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Re: 1st Time Buyer looking at a Choey Lee 27 MkII

Do the FWC conversion kit as the A4 will run great at the higher water temperature it allows and stay much cleaner inside as much less combustion deposits form






Were is you fuel fill as my 1970 it was on the cockpit floor which always got water in the tank

I had to move it the rail to pass survey and it was a BIG improvement
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