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Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

I will be heading to Boston this Saturday to view both a 1987 Catalina 30 and a 1987 Freedom 30. I would love any input and or opinions from either vessel’s owners. Anyone willing to make comparisons would also be very much appreciated. I have been reading reviews on Practical Sailor, but there is nothing like hearing it from the source Thanks!
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

I owned a C-30, but I'd take the Freedom 30 hands down. I just looked on YW and am horrified at how low these boas are in value these days. The whole market is down... 22-27k for a Freedom 30 is a STEAL.
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

I'd agree with Maine Sail. I haven't owned either, and I'm a fan of the C30's (strongly considered buying one this time around, but found something "better" in my price range), but the Freedom 30's are nice boats.
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

Its all about condition at that age of boat. If both are in the same condition the Freedom may be the better choice. Very solidly made and nice warm teak interior.

If I remember Freedom 30 dont have shrouds and are free standing masts with a small jib on a Hoyt like boom setup. If so they probably are not as going at pointing and going to windward. I have sailed on a Cat 30 and a karger Freedom 45. The Larger Feeedom was very stable.
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

The boat shown on YW in Sandy Hook does not have a free standing mast, it has a traditional sloop rig with some gelcoat damage.
Nice looking boat for the price.
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

I thought all Freedoms had a free standing carbon fiber mast, no shrouds.
They are nice boats regardless.
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

It has the freestanding mast. That is a cat-sloop like most of the Freedom boats.

What looks like an upper shroud on the starboard side of the boat is probably a tied off halyard. They do have some form of a forestay for holding up the jib.

Overall I have to agree that the Freedom is likely to be a lot nicer than the Catalina. One thing to watch out for is that the Freedom has a cored hull, so a good inspection/survey will be required to make sure that the core is dry.
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

Thanks to all that replied to my inquiry; Catalina 30 vs. Freedom 30. I am still looking for "the right boat" for me but with each that I look at, I am learning more and more. With the input from fellow readers like you, it helps me to identify pos and cons of each individual boat.
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

I have been on Sail Calculator Pro for performance comparison of the Freedom 30 vs. equal size Pearson, Oday and Catalina on hull speed and didn't notice much of a difference. Sail are actually goes to the Freedom so I assume they are comparing a 135% genoa on the others. I am somewhat concerned with difference btween the Freedom and the others though, as far as motion comfort which puts the Freedom at a 4-5 point disadvantage. Is that because she is a much lighter boat? Will I feel that noticeable of a differnce in both underway and at anchor?
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Re: Catalina 30 vs. Freedom30

Hull speed isn't going to vary a lot since it is closely related to waterline length and WLL isn't going to vary a lot between 30' boats. If you really want to compare performance you should look up the PHRF (despite all of it's issues) using a single source like this one:
http://offshore.ussailing.org/Assets...er+19+2011.pdf

There you'll find that a Freedom 30 rates from 171-174, and a Catalina 30 rates from 180-201. The low SA/D and higher weight of the Catalina 30 will bring down it's ratings here.

I would trust reviews more than numbers for motion comfort. Hull shape makes a big difference here, and that isn't accounted for at all in that MC number.
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