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A little older, cult type, Robert Perry designed cruising machine would be a Valiant Esprit 37. Take you anywhere....
Can you find a listing? Only thing I came up with were power boats.
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Re: Boat Candidate options wanted

Ericson 380 built by Pacific Seacraft might work.
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Re: Boat Candidate options wanted

There is a renovated '68 Cal 36 in Annapolis for $30K.
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Re: Boat Candidate options wanted

David,
If you come off the 10 years old or less thing the world opens up enormously.

True aft cabin boats require a tad more length if you want a real cabin, not a 2x2 foot standing area and a coffin berth for two very friendly, very skinny people.

I know I keep saying CC's, and I have a reason. I spent too much of my life living in a Navy coffin berth. People need room.

Here's my choice for you (obviously on the wrong coast, but you get the idea).

There are lots out there, but if I did the search you'd have no fun.
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Given your parameters i think i would look at a jeanneau. Easily handled, roomy and can be found for a decent price for a newer version. I would open your window up to the last 15 years.
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Chef, no disagreement but all of those companies make boats that are designed for blue water hops (I'm not trying to restart a blue water thread).

My Catalina 30 is a very solid coastal boat, but I would be hesitant to take her to Bermuda. The 309 is similar construction. Others may disagree.
Agree...I wasnt being disparaging....just stating what I found when I put the figures in Yacht World and Sailboat owners. David has been very open about choosing between older models and newer ones.
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Re: Boat Candidate options wanted

From the size perspective, I'll share our experience. We spent 12 years with a 40 footer that we shared with partners. When it came time to move on, neither couple really wanted to keep the boat, it was a big, brawny boat (will always be my 'favourite') and we all felt it would be more than one couple could handle, no windlass, no furler, no refrig, etc.... So we sold it, for more or less what we had paid 12 years earlier (which backs up your premise in another thread, David)

When my wife and I shopped for its replacement we thought, 30 feet should do nicely. But having lived with 40 it was very difficult to find a 30 that didn't feel cramped that was within budget, including the C30, one of the roomiest around. In the end we settled on a (admittedly smallish) 35 footer and still feel that's the 'right size'. We gained a lot of amenities, but a nicely proportioned sailplan that still, 8 years later, feels light and manageable with quite a nice amount of interior space and storage below.

I don't think you need to go to 40 feet, but also don't think you need/want to settle for 30 either. Of course a newer factor is that the more recent boats have much more space below per foot LOA than older 80s designs, so there is that... but beware the loss of good storage!
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Can you find a listing (Esprit 37) Only thing I came up with were power boats.
The Valiant Esprit 37 Sailboat : Bluewaterboats.org

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Re: Boat Candidate options wanted

OK, I have your answer.

I have been looking at this myself and come to realize that I DON'T want a blue water boat, of the expensive like mentioned above. To get to the bahama's is a 10-12 hour hop in a clear weather window. You need a roomy cruiser.

And I know the boat you need.

An O'Day 322. Amazing interior layout, shoal keel.

If its still on yacht world, there was one in annapolis that had new engine, sails and instruments for under 30k. Plenty of room left in your budget for luxury upgrades!
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Re: Boat Candidate options wanted

The OP sets criteria of $120000 and 10 years and gets a slew of suggestions over $130,000 and much greater than 15 years old. Not what he asked for

He posted in another thread the pro and cons of buying newer ( with less wear and tear but already depreciated) vrs older with replacement costs and upgrades necessary right away. he obviously decided on newer

What is available are some nice cruisers which are suitable for his purpose, I like the 38 ft Catalinas the best. All are production boats

The 36 CC Beneteay I dont think will suit your purpse. It is OK as a Bay boat. It is ponderously slow, and the sea motion is not gentle. My freind 2 slips from me has one. You are virtually 24 ft from the bow at the helm.

If you are willing to go another 3- 5 years out, production boats still quality and it opens up the 40 fters.

David I know you can handle a 40 ft easily and the added length and weight will give you icreased comfort at sea, anchor and more tankage.
I still prefer the Catalina

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