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Re: Boat Candidate options wanted

chef2sail; i think you are right on the money. I believe these to be some good choices.

I see my model is right in the mix. I have found the newer models much easier to control at the dock. People say the 400 is porky and slow; yet, i seem to move right along at 7-7.5 quite nicely. I believe now that i own a beneatoy that the construction is actually first rate. Am amazed all the time how well built it is for a 93 with some hard sea miles (and prior race/cruise boat)
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The OP sets criteria of $120000 and 10 years and gets a slew of suggestions over $130,000 and much greater than 15 years old. Not what he asked for
He also asked for a boat to sail to Bermuda! I think you missed that box!? (Oh, my bad, different thread!)
Seriously though, deducting 20% off YW is about normal, and opening the window on age as Chuckles noted improves build quality and choices.
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Seriously though, deducting 20% off YW is about normal, and opening the window on age as Chuckles noted improves build quality and choices.
Are there any well built boats built in the last 10 years that are worthy of a trip to bermuda? I guess he will have to look for a boat that is at least 30 years old.

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Are there any well built boats built in the last 10 years that are worthy of a trip to bermuda?
Absolutely, just not in the OP's price bracket!
Hence, a little older than 10 years would help keep the price down and provide more and higher quality vessels to choose from.
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Two additional candidates to be considered are the J/32 and the Jeanneau 34.2. The J/32 was built from 1996- 2003 and Jeeanneau is approximately the same vintage. Both are in the OP's desired price range and have standing headroom and three enclosed cabins. The J/32 is clearly designed to be steered from beside the wheel rather than behind. I don't think that I've ever seen a picture of the helmsman behind the wheel of a J/32.

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Absolutely, just not in the OP's price bracket!
Hence, a little older than 10 years would help keep the price down and provide more and higher quality vessels to choose from.
That is certainly fair.
OK then what would be a better choice closer to 200k?
Or is that still not enough.
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OK then what would be a better choice closer to 200k?
What would you consider your oldest, acceptable production year?
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Take a look at a Nor'sea 27, aft cabin model. Under 40 foot, most sell for under 60K around 10 years old, several have circumnavigated, draft way under 5 foot, the only requirement not fulfilled is the wheel. She has an outboard rudder with tiller. Enclosed head, full galley, manageable ground tackle system, 40 gallon water, 20 gallon fuel, most equipped with 2 cylinder Yanmars fresh water cooled, trailer-able so you can be on the west coast in 6 days, or the Sea of Cortez, or the Pacific Northwest. If you have space at home, she can be stored there during the off season. No longer held hostage by the boat yards.
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That is certainly fair.
OK then what would be a better choice closer to 200k?
Or is that still not enough.
Now your talking. Here are some quality non production boats. Some very nice stable good quality cruisers. Check out the Pacific Seacraft...great boat. I didnt list all the nice Catalina 40s and 38 either.

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What would you consider your oldest, acceptable production year?
Well that of course is the real question?

I've spent a lot of time on 20 to 30 year old boats.
I've also interviewed many many owners and read countless blogs and stories.

The conclusion I have come to is that unless you do a complete rebuilt which I don't want to devote the years to the older the boat higher the probability that several important items will "come due" during the time I own the boat.
It seems a lot like musical chairs.
So I can't answer that question exactly.
It is apparently ultimately a crap shoot. New is no guarantee, brand is no guarantee, surveys miss a lot, Refits can be problematic.
I'm just trying to stack the deck in my favor.
If I could spend 200k sail for 3 years and sell the boat for 200k that would be a much better deal in my opinion than buying a boat for 50k putting three years and 100 into it and selling for 50k after 6 years.
But you never know. I might spend 200k still have to put 100k into it and sell for 100k. The worst of both worlds. That last plan would devastate me financially. I would never recover.

What I'm getting at is that I'm 62 my father is still alive and healthy. I want to be as prudent as possible so I can still have fun but not end up penniless.
My problem is that I'm not wealthy enough so I can afford to loose a couple hundred k.
But I have enough resources so I could if necessary buy a boat in a wide range of cost categories.
That makes the choices harder in my opinion.

At some point we all have to take our chances or not, there are no guarantees in life.
I figure there is nothing wrong in looking before leaping however.
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