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maccauley123 03-16-2013 11:28 AM

My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
I am starting the search for my next boat which I am looking to buy within the next 2 years. I currently sail an Ericson 29 and am looking to move up to something larger that can take me farther. I have put together a list of my criteria which includes:

- 35-40 feet
- Max 5 foot draft, will be berthed near Oriental NC and want to do Bahamas.
- 1980 or newer
- Budget is max $50,000
- Encapsulated keel
- Wheel steering
- Aft cabin, as comfortable as possible
- Swim step
- Diesel engine
- Good tankage and storage
- Center cockpit is desired but not required
- Good ventilation
- Good anchoring platform
- Comfortable Cockpit
- Bimini/Dodger desired
- Well constructed and reliable. Blue water capable would be a bonus.
- Use will be varied. Looking for it to be capable of doing a 3-4 month trip to Caribbean, day sails, overnights.
- Sail with crew but also singlehanded.
- Good sail performance, a race winner is not required.
- Pristine not required, willing to do some work.

I have looked through Yachtworld and have come up with some options that appear to meet these requirements like the Oday 40, Irwin 37 CC and some Beneteau like the First and the Idyll. The Hunter 37 Cherubini looks good but no swim step. There are about 160 boats just along the East Coast that come up when I enter my basic parameters which is a lot to look through.

Can anyone recommend particular boats that meet these conditions I should be looking for?

msmith10 03-16-2013 01:35 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
An encapsulated keel knocks out a lot of boats. Not saying good or bad, it just narrows your selection a lot.

Faster 03-16-2013 02:33 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
Many boats have essentially moulded keels except for a bolted-on ballast section rather than a full-on bolt-on fin... Those should satisfy that parameter, I'd think....

I think if you're willing to entertain an older well found boat you probably have too many choices... But you already know that. Find one that grabs your heart.

msmith10 03-16-2013 02:55 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
Faster is right. You should have a good selection. Check out the CS 36 Merlin (not traditional). That's the boat I'm eyeing for my next-to-last boat. I'm thinking my last boat, when I'm not looking for something I can cruise in, will be the same as my first keelboat- a Dragon. Easy to singlehand, points well, stable as a rock in bad weather, but the complexity is there if I want to use it.

maccauley123 03-16-2013 03:51 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
The CS 36 looks nice but the models I was able to find all draw 6 feet minimum which is deeper than what I want. It seems as long as I can find the shoal draft it will likely have the encapsulated keel I am looking for. I want a boat I don't have to worry about and while not a big source of worry I'm sure just don't want keel bolts. In the case of a grounding I feel better with an integrated keel like my current boat.

maccauley123 03-17-2013 06:44 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
Does anyone know anything about the Hunter 37 Cherubini? Other than no swim step it seems to have what I am looking for.

ctl411 03-17-2013 07:20 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
Great boats I've owned two, but the keel is bolt on not encapsulated. I will be sailing a third this summer that a friend bought.

maccauley123 03-17-2013 08:07 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
ctl, even the shoal draft is a bolt on? I looked at one last weekend with a 4 foot draft and the keel ran much of the hull length. Appeared to be encapsulated, may not be as easy to tell as I thought. Despite that the model seems to be well regarded, have many of the features I desire and is at a very attractive price.

blt2ski 03-17-2013 10:10 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
I know of one H37 that has been from seattle to mexico and back a couple of times with the original owner. That particular one is a bit beat up. BUT, the owner loves it.

I personally am not so sure an encapsulated keel would be my first choice.......I would prefer bolted on.

Reality is, from the standpoints of what you have mentioned, find one that meets your eyes! Otherwise, what works for me, may not work for you. While I will not argue the heritage of a Cheribuni H37, to me, it is not the prettiest thing on the market for the price you will pay! I can think of a few more boats I would prefer.

You might also look at a Jeanneau sunshine 36/38. Some of these came with CB's, so you have shoal draft when getting into a harbor, yet when off shore, you can drop the CB and have some draft to help you point etc. I would go this route before a true wing/shoal keel personally. I also believe Tartan has some 35-40' CB models, as does Beneteau in yrs past.


T37SOLARE 03-17-2013 10:31 PM

Re: My Next and Hopefully Last Boat - Which One?
Other than the swim step and center cockpit, the Tartan 37, Pearson 36.5 and Bristol 35.5 should fit your requirements and are all bluewater capable.

Good luck on your search.

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