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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

I can only say that the C25 is a blast to sail. I can't compare to the 22. Spent many a fun afternoon sailing on a buddy's 25 poptop.
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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

Apples and oranges. Vast difference in displacement and interior volume. C25 has a separate head (not under v-berth), has a perminant galley, probably could handle a little rougher conditions,... and as stated, costs a lot more to buy and keep.
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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

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I am curious to see what the input is for a Catalina 22 or 25 as a first cruiser.
I'll agree on what others have said for the living space of the C22 vs C25. I've been on both and had a C25 for 17 years, recently moved to the C36. A few comments that others have not highlighted much
  • C22 has a daysailor feel about it. Walk forward on the deck at dock along the rail and the boat will lean a great deal. The C25 has a genuine big boat feel. You can walk about the deck without a great deal of heel or motion. Masthead work on the C25 can be done on a bosun chair. Take a chair up the mast on a C22 and it will likely put the boat flat to the water. Very dangerous.
  • C22 is about as big as a reasonable person would trailer sail. Simple rig and easy to put up. My C25 took 2 hours to rig properly and it would be a great pain to rig and de-rig in the same day for an afternoon of sailing.
  • C25 with swing keel is a pain in the butt. People have had their boat sink if the cable fails and the keel swings out. It can crack the housing. Swing keel points better. I had the wing keel and I loved it, despite the fact that the swing keel guys would make me feel like I was sailing sideways. I prefer wing for lots of reasons, but swing does preform better.

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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

During my boat search about 18 months ago, I eliminated the C22 as not being enough boat for ocean sailing. I found a fin keel C25 without the poptop for a good price and never looked back.

There is a huge difference in interior volume between the two.

If trailerability isn't a big concern, you want the 25.

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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

It depends on what you plan to do and where.

I have sailed a bunch of boats from a sunfish to a Hunter 32. Currently have a C22, IMHO its no dingy. But - its easy to handle. the C22 is fine for 4 adults, and can handle 5 or 6 people. You can put a ton of stuff in the cabin and it has lockers under the cockpit seats.

For me, bigger boats are great if you sleep on board or sail on the ocean but just seem to take more money, time and energy on systems, maintenance, cleaning and everything else. Smaller boats ( seems to me) leave you more time and energy to sail. Sails are cheaper too. We sail in the Hudson River mostly, and mostly day sail.


What kind of crew will you have? Do you have a strong agile person to go forward? The C22 is easy to handle, easy to put up sails. I know that our Hunter 32 felt like too big of a boat for 2 or 3 people on a day sail and I was always cleaning, fixing , dealing with a rig that was too big to take down.


A C25 might be a sweet spot , I don't know. But as a C22 owner I am having a lot of fun, its a very sweet boat and I am not pining away for a 25.

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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

Thanks for all the input. Around here in Cincinnati, we have relatively small lakes to sail on, so for me, I don't think overnight trips will happen often. My wife is actually the one who asked me to consider the 25 because of the cabin space, but as I currently just do day sails, I don't consider a large cabin to be a necessity. I have crewed with a friend on a Capri 25, so I guess I would sort of have the feel for a Cat 25. We are both young (late 20's) so being able to have friends with us is really what we would like. Most likely, 4 ppl would often would be on the boat with 6 on occasion.

I guess crew would be one issue. My help (wife) would be my primary crew and she has 10x more interest on being on a sail boat rather than helping me crew. All boats I am looking at has a furling headsail, so would that be a big deal? Having a 25, I am just concerned that it may be too much boat for me to handle. Does anyone see that as a concern? I just don't want to get 25 and then not be comfortable sailing it.
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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

The C-22 has a bit larger cockpit than the C-25. The Capri 25 has a larger cockpit than either, and a smaller interior than the C-25, since it is meant more for racing than sailing. It is also a faster boat.

I found the C-25 pretty easy to handle myself and often sailed it solo, even without an autopilot.

Cabin space is most useful for overnight trips, but having a real head behind a closed screen is nicer on the C-25, and having a galley is nice if you plan on having picnics or meals onboard.
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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

Cincy020,
Lots of good info. If set up is not a problem, the 25 may be best as you will grow into it. The wife unit may like the cabin space and inclosed head. If you can store and transport a fixed keel, less to maintain. I'm looking at both as well.
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Re: Catalina 22 or 25?

The Catalina 25 was near the top of the list for us when we were looking for a bigger boat (first boat was an 18 ft Renken sloop daysailer). Ended up getting an S2 7.9 due to easier trailering (sits lower, lifting daggerboard keel rather than swing or fixed) and its a faster boat, but the Catalina definitely has a nicer interior. There are a couple of Catalina 25s for sale here in Indianapolis that we were considering, both with trailers and outboards for less than $10k asking. Great people at Sailboats Indiana (although these boats aren't owned by them, just acting as a brokerage).

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