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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

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Also mast raising is simple. I never used a system. I used a halyard and walked it up. I can show you how to do it. A system is fine just look on you tube for some samples.

Did you ever raise and lower the mast while underway? I plan on launching from a ramp on the river (chicago river, south branch) as often as I can help it, and masts don't get along with those bridges.

Sure I can wait for the times they raise them, but I'd rather be able to do it whenever.

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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

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Did you ever raise and lower the mast while underway? I plan on launching from a ramp on the river (chicago river, south branch) as often as I can help it, and masts don't get along with those bridges.

Sure I can wait for the times they raise them, but I'd rather be able to do it whenever.
What is the attraction to launching on the River?

I can think of many other ramps I would rather use than launching on the River, motoring up the River, and locking through to get to sailing grounds.
Burnham, 31st Street, Hammond, Michigan City, all have fine ramps.
Maybe it is the cost associated with launching fees, but you are going to have nothing but head aches launching on the South Branch in my opinion.
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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

Well, the lock is part of the fun for me, I guess I'm a nerd. It'll probably get old. The boat's co-owner lives about 8 blocks from the Richard J Daley boat launch, and being a true Chicagoan, i'd be loath not to make use of a ramp with that name. Its not a deal breaker, but I'd like it be possible if its not too much trouble. I know I'll have an interior painting and probably a fair amount of gelcoat work to do, so adding a whole lot more work on top of it all just to go under some bridges isn't something I'd dive into.
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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

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Are there any major differences between the venture 25 and the macgregor 25? or just name?
The name changed at the beginning of the 80s from Venture to Macgregor. The Venture 25 was built from 1974-79 (hull ID "F"), from 1980-1987 they were called Macgregor 25 (hull ID "R" ... for Roger ???) The difference between the older and the newer models was the introduction of a headliner, slight change in layout, more storage space and different windows.
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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

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Well, the lock is part of the fun for me, I guess I'm a nerd. It'll probably get old. The boat's co-owner lives about 8 blocks from the Richard J Daley boat launch, and being a true Chicagoan, i'd be loath not to make use of a ramp with that name. Its not a deal breaker, but I'd like it be possible if its not too much trouble. I know I'll have an interior painting and probably a fair amount of gelcoat work to do, so adding a whole lot more work on top of it all just to go under some bridges isn't something I'd dive into.
Are we talking Western and the River?

1. Your not going to raise and lower your mast and sail in the river. At most it is what 300 feet wide? And the bridges downtown are a block or two apart. I don't see this happening.
2. That has got to be a 1-hour motor, add the lock and you are looking at 1-1/2 hours before you raise a sail.

I really think you need to rethink your strategy for getting on the water. Most of us are looking to be as close as possible to the open water to increase our time actually sailing.
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Are we talking Western and the River?

1. Your not going to raise and lower your mast and sail in the river. At most it is what 300 feet wide? And the bridges downtown are a block or two apart. I don't see this happening.
2. That has got to be a 1-hour motor, add the lock and you are looking at 1-1/2 hours before you raise a sail.

I really think you need to rethink your strategy for getting on the water. Most of us are looking to be as close as possible to the open water to increase our time actually sailing.
River would be all motoring. I wouldn't raise until I was out on the lake. those bridges are less than one block apart actually, but I know what you mean.
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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

A river launch would be a treat, yes. But as I've never been on the south branch, being able to do it at least once would be a blast. I don't have to have a sail up to have fun do i?
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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

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A river launch would be a treat, yes. But as I've never been on the south branch, being able to do it at least once would be a blast. I don't have to have a sail up to have fun do i?
No not at all. Anytime on the water is a good time.
South Branch there is not a lot to see, but once you get North of say Roosevelt Road it is very cool. You are right down in it and you can actually feel all the history from the "Golden Age." and don't forget you will motor right past the Dock where the Eastland Disaster occurred.
I had thought you were thinking of a system to raise and lower the stick while in the river, sorry if I came across as negative. You enjoy your day anyway you want to, but I believe after a few river trips you will be done with it.
Actually, I have buddies with power boats, if you want time on the river we can arrange it.
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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

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Did you ever raise and lower the mast while underway? I plan on launching from a ramp on the river (chicago river, south branch) as often as I can help it, and masts don't get along with those bridges.

Sure I can wait for the times they raise them, but I'd rather be able to do it whenever.
Not the best Idea to raise from the water but doable. The better option may be launching from 31st street. They have an awesome new launch and I was planning on setting in over there. You can be out of the breakwater in about 300 yards from the ramp. It is deep quick and you can get a pass for about $250 to launch for the summer. I kept my boat in the yard with the mast up in Michigan city and launched that way. It was way easier to wait for a bridge than to raise or lower the mast. Plus if you drop a retaining pin in the water your day could be ruined.
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Re: Beginner in a Macgregor-Venture 25 on Lake MI

PM me if you want I can plan to go out on a sail with you and show you the ropes on that boat and give you some performance tips. It is basically my boat with 2 foot more in the cockpit. I have done this twice now with new Venture owners. Just thought I would offer.
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