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2001 Hunter 460 sailboat for sale in Florida Ok now I have 10 posts so it will let me post a link of the boat we have been looking at. Those who know.... please tell me what you think? Thank you all for putting up with my posts needed to build to 10 ;-)
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Re: Start Up Planning and Advice

If you have never sailed you may be in for a shock. It's more of a lifestyle change and learning curve. It's a little bit slower......

My view; look for something in the 40-45 foot range within the last 15 yrs. Something that can be dual-handled easily. There are true "blue water" cruising boats out there. You'll need to do your research and spend more. Don't rule out catamarans.

Honestly; i think you can do better than a Hunter 460; especially for ocean work. Just my view.

Some of the sailboats i consider to be at the very top of the list.

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Antares Yachts: Building the World's Best Liveaboard Catamaran

Maybe it will take this time. One of my favorite cat's
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My wife and I will be purchasing our first sailboat within the next five years....
I need some direction in understanding what boats (with practice) would eventually allow us to sail from the US to Bermuda, Brazil, and eventually Europe. What length of boat should we look at? What is to short or to long for cross Atlantic travel?....

I have seen something about 'Class A' boats, but I cannot find a true listing of them....

We really like this boat. It seams laid out well and seems to have what we are looking for. Any help please? Websites we should look at?

2001 Hunter 460 2001 Hunter 460 sailboat for sale in Florida
There are others far more qualified than I who will chime in, as I am still in the process of researching my first sailboat. FWIW, from what I've been able to learn to date, it looks as if that Hunter 460 you've linked to is a very comfortable and well-equipped coastal cruiser that is also Bahamas and perhaps Gulf/Caribbean (near-offshore) capable.

Some of those very comforts (large openings for light an ventilation, open interior, sugar scoop stern, dinghy on davits, etc.) might present problems in an Atlantic crossing, however. Sailing near the coast, and even shooting from Florida over to the Bahamas, etc., involves making relatively short hops that enable you to pick favorable weather windows to sail, and also to wait out bad weather in safe anchorages as is needed. Crossing the open ocean (at 7-8 knots) means that the boat and crew should be capable of handling and surviving any storm or rogue wave that might occur out there - beyond the scope of the latest weather report in port, and days away from any potential rescue. I'd imagine that if you are lucky with the weather and seas the Hunter 460 could get you over to the Med, but if you are not so lucky, you are literally risking the lives of captain and crew.

So, are you feeling lucky? Regardless, it's a beautiful boat, and I wish you the best in your cruising ventures to come.

As a minor side note - with a 5.5 foot wing keel draft you may be restricted somewhat in sailing in shallower waters such as in much of the Bahamas, the Keys, the Chesapeake, etc.
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I agree with Benesailor - you're in for a big change. I strongly suggest doing a charter for a week on a 30'er to see if you like sailing. My parents had power boats when I was a kid, and sailing is a whole different game. If you like it, great! But I'd hate to see you plunk down a nice chunk of change on something only to realize that it isn't for you.
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We are already working to schedule two different week training/charter events. When we decide to do something, we do it like snails....very slow and very thorough. We have lived on a boat in short stints and will live full time once our two kids graduate high school. We have decided on Galveston in Texas as they seem to be very friendly to live aboards. My territory includes TX as well so I will not even have to change careers. We want to do this right which is why we are starting and planning now. At the EARLIEST we will be selling out 340 and looking to move to a sailboat is 2018. I know it may seem 'early' to try and start looking, but we really want to do our research and know what we are getting into. ..... THAT said, does anyone know anythign at Catana Cats? I found this one and the layout looks nice. We could add a washer dryer I am sure, but any thoughts? I have read they are good for blue water sailing? yes, no, maybe?

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Or this one maybe?

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Re: Start Up Planning and Advice

Welcome to sailnet and welcome to sailing.
Good advice given on chartering. Try it before you buy it. Also get some time on OPB (Other People's Boats) in your own marina/harbour. Many sailors are happy to talk for hours about their boats and are always looking for new crew for daysailing. The more time you get onboard a sailboat, the more likely you are to find that your vision of the ideal boat will change.
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I know this will come across as blasphemous on a sailing forum, but for me, if I was planning on the type of travel the OP is talking about, I'd get a 45-50 foot Nordhaven or similar long range cruiser. But that's just me.
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Glad to see that you're planning some charters. I think that after just a few days on one, you'll start to have ideas of what you do and don't like. A few more charters and maybe going on friends' boats and you'll have a much better idea. That's what we did -- and some things we thought we liked when we saw boats at shows, we decided we didn't when we were actually living with them.

One suggestion is to charter as different boats as possible -- maybe a Hunter one time and an Island Packet another (just an example of two really different boats). Go for one that's 36 feet and another that's 40+. And so on. On your charters, sail as much as you can, but also do your own docking whenever the charter company will let you (even though you've got lots of powerboat experience, sailboats handle VERY different from powerboats and even from one to another).

And above all, have fun!
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