Waquiez 47 PS, Nordship 430DS

[wagonmonster]

Hey
does anyone have any experience with either of these boats?

Waquiez 47 PS, Nordship 430DS

[PCP]

Originally Posted by wagonmonster

Hey
does anyone have any experience with either of these boats?

Waquiez 47 PS, Nordship 430DS

Both are decksaloon boats but I guess that the only thing they have in common besides that is price. They really are in different leagues in what regards size and quality.

Regards

Paulo

[wagonmonster]

Originally Posted by PCP

Both are decksaloon boats but I guess that the only thing they have in common besides that is price. They really are in different leagues in what regards size and quality.

Regards

Paulo

care to elaborate a little more?
From the research that i have done the Nordship is the better build/higher quality of the two. Waquiez used to be very well build but since Beneteau bought them out things have been slipping. I guess i was thinking they were still in similar leagues?

sorry im new and just learning

[PCP]

I would not say that the Wauquiez is badly built, I don't think so but regarding interior quality and finish I would say that the Wauquiez is perhaps a bit better than a Jeanneau DS and a Nordship is a bit better than an Halberg Rassy. That is what I mean regarding not being on the same league in what regards quality.

In Europe we call the kind of quality of Nordship Luxury

Regarding size a 47ft is significantly bigger than a 43ft however they have the same displacement but, for a similar draft, the Nordship has considerable more ballast.

There are few DS boats that can be compared with the Nordship in terms of interior quality, specially now that Regina and Fantasi are out of business. Maybe the new CR 44, if you want a more modern and fast boat.

Regards

Paulo

[wagonmonster]

how about sailing performance?
the Nordship is defiantly an offshore boat that can pretty much go anywhere with out having to do much to upgrade the rigging, from what i have read.

how about the Waquiez? (its been alot harder to find information on it)

thanks

[PCP]

Originally Posted by wagonmonster

how about sailing performance?
the Nordship is defiantly an offshore boat that can pretty much go anywhere with out having to do much to upgrade the rigging, from what i have read.

how about the Waquiez? (its been alot harder to find information on it)

thanks

Probably with light wind the Wauquiez will be faster but today with very easy furling asymmetric spinnakers that would not be a problem. I remember a test sail on a French magazine between the Wauquiez 41 and the Nordship 40. The proportion in what regards weight was similar to the one on the bigger boats you mention and the Nordship, to everybody's surprise was faster. The test was not performed with a lot of wind, just medium wind.

In this case, taking in consideration that the 47 is bigger and has a bigger waterline it is expected to be faster than the Nordship 43.

Almost any 47ft boat will not have problems offshore and the Wauquiez will not be exception. However the standard boat comes with a big genoa while the Nordship comes with a smaller jib on a self taking jib. That will make the Nordship more easy to sail in heavy weather. But I am sure that a similar set up can be proposed on the Wuaquiez.

The Nordship will have a different motion compared to the Wauquiez: It is more heavy and probably more comfortable. I have to say i don't like very much the Wauquiez even if I am sure it is well built and sails well.

You can also have a look at the Southerly 47, that seems better designed to me or if you have the money for it and want speed in a first rate interior DS, to the CR 440 or CR 480:

CR Yachts

You can see a short review on the 380Ds here:

Interesting Sailboats

Regards

Paulo