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Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

guess -I'd go with the little one given the choices. Have a PSC34 and she's a comfort in weather. Think Crealock was a gentleman but also knew his stuff. If you have room boat does fine with warps or series drogue. Nice feature of double enders. She would hove to under just a bit of staysail and triple reefed main. Don't know how the 31 would do- no experience.
Think solent with storm jib on removable inner forestay takes the sting out roller furling. Still can single a big boat but when it gets really nasty have hanked on sails.
Current boat would still be sailing in what you describe.

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Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

I guess what I was trying to get at, was if there was some size limit where you might wish you were in a bigger boat, even if it was not as blue water as yours. Say you were in a Flicka riding up and down steep 15 foot swells. Does size alone ever matter to anyone?

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This is my 2 cents and its all its worth. I have owned a Flicka, Allegra 24, and now a FC22. I love them all and will sail them anywhere. The key to small boats is keeping them under control. A large boat is much more forgiving and in those kind of conditions if you make a mistake it will be a lot less of an ordeal. I have not been able to get any of these three boats to drive into big steep sea's and high winds, small boats have many limitations. On the other hand they are so small and light that they float over everything as opposed to driving through them. I go to great lengths not to be caught off guard in fowl weather and if I do get caught I heave to, make cookies and hide under my sleeping bag till its over, I HATE rough weather. In my very limited opinion the FC is the better sailing boat of the three but also much, much more expensive to purchase, maintain, and operate, by double at a minimum.
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In my very limited opinion the FC is the better sailing boat of the three but also much, much more expensive to purchase, maintain, and operate, by double at a minimum.
Which is what makes me think, I would rather trade some of the seagoing ruggedness of the Falmouth Cutter for a bigger boat... then I look at pictures of yours and get all confused again!

In the end, for me it will just be an academic argument, due to other requirements (tankage, storage, etc. for two people).

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umm, I think the biggest issue is livability in rough seas and weather. Boats designed for coastal cruising have lots of space and that means lots of bruises when you venture forward to use the head or try and cook a meal. In smaller boats you may just get thrown a foot or so and boats built for offshore tend to have hand holds everywhere. Both boats will probably do just fine with a conservative captain, but in rough weather smaller boats are easier to live on.

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Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

you- I think it depends on the vessel. My boat was purpose built to voyage. In it's construction we made mods to ensure the bride ( 4'10") and big fat old clumsy me would not be bouncing around. Lots of things to lean on or grab. Think most purpose built boats even the flying pie pieces of Paulo can have interiors that are quite safe in the stink. One of the reasons I didn't go with an European boat is many don't have that nice c shaped galley that allows cooking in a seaway without belting in. Agree it's quite a problem on the French water condos.

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Sounds like a fun challenge. Having never sailed the boat I can't say for sure but the optimist in me says there has to be some combo of sails, trim and rudder angle that will get the boat to heave to.

On the other hand it's a Crealock design so maybe it has some deep, dark design flaw.
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Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

Any boat well made of steel. I'd rather be in a small steel boat than a large one made of fibreglass or, god forbid, wood ( dead vegitation.) Things simply dont break in a small steel boat, and they dont leak.

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Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

Considering that yachts like this can sink:
Sinking of Proteksan-Turquoise superyacht Yogi | Yachting Magazine

There is a lot to be said for purpose built solid offshore cruisers of any size. That said, for all the days except the gale you pay the price.
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