Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges - Page 2 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree10Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 04-25-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: new england
Posts: 1,847
Thanks: 34
Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts
Rep Power: 3
outbound is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

guess -I'd go with the little one given the choices. Have a PSC34 and she's a comfort in weather. Think Crealock was a gentleman but also knew his stuff. If you have room boat does fine with warps or series drogue. Nice feature of double enders. She would hove to under just a bit of staysail and triple reefed main. Don't know how the 31 would do- no experience.
Think solent with storm jib on removable inner forestay takes the sting out roller furling. Still can single a big boat but when it gets really nasty have hanked on sails.
Current boat would still be sailing in what you describe.
__________________
s/v Hippocampus
Outbound 46
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #12  
Old 04-25-2013
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 2,073
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

I guess what I was trying to get at, was if there was some size limit where you might wish you were in a bigger boat, even if it was not as blue water as yours. Say you were in a Flicka riding up and down steep 15 foot swells. Does size alone ever matter to anyone?
__________________
Bristol 27
Cirque
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #13  
Old 04-25-2013
barefootnavigator's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Salish Sea
Posts: 612
Thanks: 24
Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
Rep Power: 3
barefootnavigator is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

This is my 2 cents and its all its worth. I have owned a Flicka, Allegra 24, and now a FC22. I love them all and will sail them anywhere. The key to small boats is keeping them under control. A large boat is much more forgiving and in those kind of conditions if you make a mistake it will be a lot less of an ordeal. I have not been able to get any of these three boats to drive into big steep sea's and high winds, small boats have many limitations. On the other hand they are so small and light that they float over everything as opposed to driving through them. I go to great lengths not to be caught off guard in fowl weather and if I do get caught I heave to, make cookies and hide under my sleeping bag till its over, I HATE rough weather. In my very limited opinion the FC is the better sailing boat of the three but also much, much more expensive to purchase, maintain, and operate, by double at a minimum.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #14  
Old 04-26-2013
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 2,073
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

Quote:
if I do get caught I heave to, make cookies and hide under my sleeping bag till its over
That is a good approach to a lot of things in life.

Quote:
In my very limited opinion the FC is the better sailing boat of the three but also much, much more expensive to purchase, maintain, and operate, by double at a minimum.
Which is what makes me think, I would rather trade some of the seagoing ruggedness of the Falmouth Cutter for a bigger boat... then I look at pictures of yours and get all confused again!

In the end, for me it will just be an academic argument, due to other requirements (tankage, storage, etc. for two people).
__________________
Bristol 27
Cirque
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #15  
Old 04-26-2013
youmeandthed's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 109
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 3
youmeandthed is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

umm, I think the biggest issue is livability in rough seas and weather. Boats designed for coastal cruising have lots of space and that means lots of bruises when you venture forward to use the head or try and cook a meal. In smaller boats you may just get thrown a foot or so and boats built for offshore tend to have hand holds everywhere. Both boats will probably do just fine with a conservative captain, but in rough weather smaller boats are easier to live on.
__________________
Life's a dream, live it!


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #16  
Old 04-26-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: new england
Posts: 1,847
Thanks: 34
Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts
Rep Power: 3
outbound is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

you- I think it depends on the vessel. My boat was purpose built to voyage. In it's construction we made mods to ensure the bride ( 4'10") and big fat old clumsy me would not be bouncing around. Lots of things to lean on or grab. Think most purpose built boats even the flying pie pieces of Paulo can have interiors that are quite safe in the stink. One of the reasons I didn't go with an European boat is many don't have that nice c shaped galley that allows cooking in a seaway without belting in. Agree it's quite a problem on the French water condos.
__________________
s/v Hippocampus
Outbound 46
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #17  
Old 04-26-2013
blowinstink's Avatar
Call me Ishmael
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 487
Thanks: 4
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 8
blowinstink is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

Great question!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #18  
Old 04-26-2013
grumpy old man
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,793
Thanks: 1
Thanked 81 Times in 77 Posts
Rep Power: 4
bobperry will become famous soon enough
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

Bare:
Sounds like a fun challenge. Having never sailed the boat I can't say for sure but the optimist in me says there has to be some combo of sails, trim and rudder angle that will get the boat to heave to.

On the other hand it's a Crealock design so maybe it has some deep, dark design flaw.
Bwahahahahaha

I'm not dyslexic I just can't spell or type worth sh%^.
__________________
Please visit my blog. It's fun to read.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Bob's Blog ....

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Please also visit my new web site
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #19  
Old 04-26-2013
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 2,373
Thanks: 19
Thanked 33 Times in 32 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Brent Swain is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

Any boat well made of steel. I'd rather be in a small steel boat than a large one made of fibreglass or, god forbid, wood ( dead vegitation.) Things simply dont break in a small steel boat, and they dont leak.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #20  
Old 04-27-2013
asdf38's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 724
Thanks: 1
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 5
asdf38 is on a distinguished road
Re: Which boat in a gale; apples and oranges

Considering that yachts like this can sink:
Sinking of Proteksan-Turquoise superyacht Yogi | Yachting Magazine

There is a lot to be said for purpose built solid offshore cruisers of any size. That said, for all the days except the gale you pay the price.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ATN Gale Sail chall03 General Discussion (sailing related) 40 07-30-2012 02:07 AM
Apples & Oranges MikeAR Boat Review and Purchase Forum 3 08-29-2009 08:19 AM
Finally getting to charter a boat tomorrow... Gale force winds forecast! labatt General Discussion (sailing related) 9 02-23-2008 03:07 AM
Gale Sail Freesail99 Gear & Maintenance 23 12-03-2007 06:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:36 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.