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I've recently come across a review of the Nonsuch 30- which seems nice but small for me. Come to find out, they made a 36, which appears to be perfectly sized. I'm not familiar with this boat and rig, and I'm curious to know what the downside is to it. I love the idea for such a simple rig, easy to single hand. What am I missing? Is the mast problematic, as big as it is? To me it seems like a nice option... great interior room, easy to sail, and from videos i've seen, easy to reef. I wouldn't be into racing it, just cruising it.... perhaps long distances, but mostly around the islands.

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The Nonsuch's are great boats.My Family had a 30 ultra.It was the largest 30 footer I ve ever seen.Its about 30 on the WL to.The interior was very roomy for 2 or 3.It was also fast,very easy to sail.We had an electric Lewmar winch to hoist up the main.Never had any problems handling it.All in all a great boat. I miss it.The 36 is HUGE for a boat under 40'.I was only on one once at a Nonsuch rendevous.It was like being on a 50 footer.They a very well built, beautiful interiors.
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Re: Nonsuch 36 - What's the scoop?

Thanks jak3b,

Do you think they'd make good bluewater cruising boats?

Any resources online that you know of that can speak to that?

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Re: Nonsuch 36 - What's the scoop?

Suggest you do some googling on their masts, they had some problem and at $100k for a new one you'd better take a close look at it. Their propane systems are absolutely terrible with multiple connections and T's inside the boat and propane water heaters that say right on the "Do not install in a boat". To top it off they are fully balsa cored below the water line and about half of the ones I look at have serious core problems in the bottom. Curiously some are as dry and sound as the day they were built. Do a lot of research and get a very good surveyor

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Re: Nonsuch 36 - What's the scoop?

Check out owner's association at Home

Low volume production boat line with popular following. My understanding is they are not great upwind boats, but others on SN will need to weigh in to verify that.

When Hinterhoeller Yachts folded up Nonsuch tooling went to Wiggers Custom Yachts in Whitby, ON - not much information here - Wiggers Custom Yachts

BP's coring comment holds true with entire Hinterhoeller line from late 70's to end of production - Niagara and Nonsuch models known for coring problems.
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Re: Nonsuch 36 - What's the scoop?

Best place to get information is from the web site of the International Nonsuch Association. Home

The INA is very active and you'll get lots of good advice.

Nonsuches were designed as the ultimate coastal cruiser, and are not bluewater boats. Cockpit is too big, drains are too small, no bridgedeck, etc. But they are fairly fast, very maneuverable, and easy to single hand. And build quality is excellent.

The very early Nonsuches did have problems with their masts because of bolt holes that were drilled down low by the deck level. Hinterhoeller replaced them all under warranty. A new mast for a 30 is nowhere near $100K and I cannot imagine that a mast for a 36 is 10 times the price of the mast for a 36. That's just sillly. Propane lines are tee-d in the cabin, but that's a very easy fix if it hasn't been done already. Hulls are cored, but so were a lot of boats and Hinterhoeller did it really well. I've looked at a lot of boats while shopping for mine and none had wet cores in the hull.

The sail on a 30 is big--about 540 square feet. Air draft is about 50 feet. The sail area on a 36 is 740 square feet. That's huge and I'm guessing you'll want some help from electric winches.

The 33 is a very good size boat too, you might take a look at that as well.

Good luck with your search.
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