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I do like the Cape Dory classic lines, would any of the smaller ones be better suited to the Chesapeake? I'm shopping in the 26'-30' range.
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If the gang has successfully talked you out of the boat, why don't you tell us more about yourself and where you plan on sailing?

BTW, there are a LOT of Annapolis-area members here, and I'm sure some would come along to look at a few boats. If you wind up in Philly or the NJ shore, let me know, I'd consider coming along. Going boat shopping is kind of like going to an open house.

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.. actually, I think Denise beat you to it!!!
And I was wondering why it took so long....I know it's not a perfect match, but I have a thing for pretty classic boats. Given how much $$$ I'll be throwing at it, it does help if it's pretty. I admit, I'll probably have ample time to reconsider my priorities while sitting on the Chessy in light air.

What's pretty, good in light air, and can be purchased for <$20,000?

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I do like the Cape Dory classic lines, would any of the smaller ones be better suited to the Chesapeake? I'm shopping in the 26'-30' range.
I like classic lines too, but that doesn't mean that boats with classic lines are necessarily the best boats for my uses.

Think about how you'll use it and pick boats that excel in those conditions, not in how they look.

In my case I care about sailing performance in light winds and do coastal sailing -- scenarios that a full keel boat doesn't do well in. I think my Pearson 28-2 is a little ugly (it's got a huge freeboard and is beamy), but the combination of interior layout and sailing performance make it one of the better choices for me.

If budget is a concern I'd also recommend looking at boats that are a little bit smaller. A 25-27' boat (often with an outboard) will have sails that are half as much as a 30' boat, a motor that is 1/4 as much (if it is an outboard), simpler systems, and be much less money to maintain. Moorage will be about $100 cheaper per month (at least here in Seattle). They are still good sizes for coastal cruising with a couple.

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And I was wondering why it took so long....I know it's not a perfect match, but I have a thing for pretty classic boats. Given how much $$$ I'll be throwing at it, it does help if it's pretty. I admit, I'll probably have ample time to reconsider my priorities while sitting on the Chessy in light air.

What's pretty, good in light air, and can be purchased for <$20,000?

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There are a lot of good boats out there in that price range. My default answer is the Tartan 30.

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If the gang has successfully talked you out of the boat, why don't you tell us more about yourself and where you plan on sailing?

BTW, there are a LOT of Annapolis-area members here, and I'm sure some would come along to look at a few boats. If you wind up in Philly or the NJ shore, let me know, I'd consider coming along. Going boat shopping is kind of like going to an open house.
Yes, you guys have definitely talked me out of this boat. But I was hoping you would - I could sense all that shiny teak was clouding my judgement.

I'm Washington, DC-based and have been sailing dingys (Flying Scots) on the Potomac for about 5 years. That may overstate my experience somewhat as I don't get out that many times in a year, but I could probably challenge an ASA101 course. Just enough experience to know how little I have. But I'm bored with river sailing within towing distance of my little marina and would like to move up to sailing a small cruiser on the Chessy. I don't want to race, I'm not looking to cross oceans - I just want to get out of the city and onto the water with my dog and my wife and a picnic cooler and maybe spend the night outside with a beer in my hand.

I've saved about $15,000, hopefully enough for a little starter boat and a slip for the season. The timing is terrible - both the wife and I are at risk for furloughs. But I just turned 40 and found out that I'm likely to spend my old age in a wheelchair (inheritable illness). I'd like to not wait much longer to get out there, since there's no guarantee I'll be able to have my retirement dream of sailing around on my boat.

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Re: Please tell me this is a nutty idea so I will stop looking at this boat.

Tartan 27'.
Shoal draft 3'6" with centerboard up, 6' w/C/B down. You would be able to get into many gunkholes with this boat.
Classic lines, decent sailor.
Smallish cabin but big enough for two.
You won't likely find one with a Volvo engine in it.
You also won't have to spend that much up front.

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I spent a month on a 25 ft Hunter down in Florida doing the ICW and Keys. The wife and
I have spent many 3 day weekends on her as well. So you don't need a 30 footer. The biggest drawback of the 25 ft Hunter was no place to store a dink and a tad too much draft to wad comfortably to shore. If I was sailing the same area, the same way, I'd be looking at a swing keel/centerboard boat so I could beach her and step ashore dry.
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The Tartan 27 is beautiful, I admit, but there don't seem to be that many of them around. The very few I've seen are from the early to mid 1960s production runs.
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There are not that many T27's listed right now. You could join my Tartan 27 yahoo group (T27Owners) as people have listed their boats there. There is one on Martha's Vineyard and a few more will be up for sale soon.
I know of a "free" T27 hull in Mamaroneck, NY. No mast, diesel engine. Located mast in Fairhaven, MA.
There are a bunch of T30's listed though. The T30 has a more spacious cabin, is a stiff sailor but the draft is about 5' which wouldn't be much better than the cd 30' you were interested in. The T30 does not quite have that classic look though.

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