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Kper 05-17-2013 06:05 AM

Paceship 23
 
Taking a back road to visit our son we stumbled across a sailboat sitting under cover hours from the nearest lake so I stopped to inquire. It didn't have a "for sale" sign on it but the older gentleman said he'll never get around to sailing it and asked if I could help get some information on it and a possible value. Turns out it was an AMF Paceship, or a PY23. The owner has had it for years and has never had it in the water. In fact, the owner before him never had it in the water and the last registration shows 1999 IIRC. It's sitting on a trailer with a little corrosion but not bad. It has 5 sails with it but I didn't take them out of the bags but can say what I did see of them they felt very good. Of course I don't know if they are damaged or what, exactly, they are. There is no roller furler and no electronics for the most part. He's replaced the interior but it would need a cleaning. The bow pulpit has been repaired and there's a 4" scratch below water line that may or may not be through the gelcoat - hard to tell because it has had a temp repair over it. Not sure of the condition of the swing keel, either. Comes with a 6hp, 2 cycle Evenrude.

Anyone have any idea what these are worth? I couldn't find any for sale online go get a feel for current values.



Thanks.

Well, it appears I am not mature enough to post photos, sorry.

p_everette 05-17-2013 07:03 AM

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Here is a link to the Paceship forums

The Paceship Website Forums

I have a PY-23, It is worth what ever you are willing to pay for it. From your description sounds like it could be worth a $1.00 to $2000.00. I keep mine in a slip on the Indian River in Melbourne, Fl. It is perfect for the river, it is a great little day sailor, and as an occasional overnighter. I would buy it again.

Phil

Sal Paradise 05-17-2013 08:54 AM

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Hmm, the old 2 cycle motor could be a worry. If that tests well at least in a barrell ( run it for half an hour at least) then agree the high end would be $2k. If the motor won't run, then $1000 might be an offer.

sony2000 05-17-2013 09:00 AM

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It was made in the same community that produced the Bluenose l and ll, in Nova Scotia, Canada. All that to say, they knew what they were doing.
When I wanted a 29 footer or there abouts, I came across a 1973 Paceship 29 CB in partial rebuild, that it maybe the last one built. So I continued the rebuild with used parts, because boats are worth not much anyway.
I'll see if I can load a good picture of my new asset.

Kper 05-17-2013 09:53 AM

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Sony2000, that could be exactly what I looked at. We recently sold our Catalina 25 so the PY23 was a bit on the small side for us but I couldn't resist stopping and inquiring. Was fun looking and conversing with the owner.

Kper 05-17-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sal Paradise (Post 1031657)
Hmm, the old 2 cycle motor could be a worry. If that tests well at least in a barrell ( run it for half an hour at least) then agree the high end would be $2k. If the motor won't run, then $1000 might be an offer.

Does your price include the trailer? I had placed a mental estimate of the trailer itself at about $1000.

Sal Paradise 05-17-2013 10:31 AM

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Yes. The trailer makes it all worthwhile and do able but its just included with the boat.

I would pursue it because it has a trailer. That means go get it and bring it home. If the trailer is really beautiful then put something extra, like maybe $300, into the price. But Yes I include the trailer in the $1k- $2k price.

Kper 05-17-2013 01:44 PM

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Thank you.

norahs arc 05-17-2013 05:26 PM

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Re PY 23 - I have sailed past lots of them. Paceship made a fixed keel 23' that is a good boat but the PY 23 is a keel/centerboard and pretty slow. That said they were well built and very good looking - just more of a motor sailor than sailboat from what I have seen. I have even passed one while I was sailing (Catalina 27) and he was motoring with a 9.9 HP outboard just screaming. The sailing qualities do not impress me at all. But they are pretty!

JimsCAL 05-17-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by norahs arc (Post 1031918)
Re PY 23 - I have sailed past lots of them. Paceship made a fixed keel 23' that is a good boat but the PY 23 is a keel/centerboard and pretty slow. That said they were well built and very good looking - just more of a motor sailor than sailboat from what I have seen. I have even passed one while I was sailing (Catalina 27) and he was motoring with a 9.9 HP outboard just screaming. The sailing qualities do not impress me at all. But they are pretty!

Not sure we're talking about the same boat. There was a Paceship 23 in our club a number of years ago and I always thought it was a nice looking boat. Similar to the ODays and Catalinas of the same era. It rates PHRF 246, versus a Cat 22 at 270 and a Cat 25 at 228, so pretty competitive.


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