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Thoughts on S2

I am looking for my first boat but am on a limited budget. I want something less than 10K that will sleep 5 and work for weekend up to 2 week long trips around the great lakes for now. I live in Sault Ste Marie so I would like to make it to Duluth, Isle Royal, and the North Shore but I would also like to make the trip south to Beaver Island and the Manitou's.

I have an opportunity to buy a 1979 S2 9.2, that appears in good condition. I am torn though between buying a cheaper boat that fits us now and then selling it later or buying something I will be able to use for my future plans.

As I mentioned in my intro post I will be taking a year off 2016/17 and want to sail from SSM out the St Lawrence, Erie, and Welland, then turn right. I want to hit the outer banks and then venture into the Caribbean. I have been told the S2 is not desirable for blue water, but how do you all feel about it for coastal cruising with a family? I realize the 9.2 will be cramped but we managed to spend a year in a 30 ft RV travelling and didn't murder each other.

I am not looking for lap of luxury but I like the teak trim in the S2. I am traveling with my wife, and 3 kids so safety and stability is key. Other than that and the 10K budget I don't have enough experience to say what I like and don't like, so any advice is welcome. Thanks
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S2 is a quality boat and if really in hood shape should serve you well. I hope the 5 of you are friendly as that will be crowded. But given your budget it will work.
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Agree with Paul.. Pretty good boat in that price range. Worth a good checking out.
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We are all very close, no personal space issues. Thanks for the input.
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Re: Thoughts on S2

Hey,

I just don't see how a 30' boat can work for 5 people for 2 weeks.

I had a Newport 28' boat and the five of use could fit for a weekend, but no longer. The problem was when you were in 'night mode' there was NO room to move around the boat and no place to put gear. Five people for two weeks will require a goodly amount of clothes, food, drinks, and gear. I loved the Newport for a night, but longer than that and it got too difficult to move around the boat, find the gear, etc.

IMHO, for 5 people for a week or longer you would really NEED something 34'
or bigger. I don't know if you will be able to find anything decent in that size for under 10K but you can certainly look.

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Hey,

I just don't see how a 30' boat can work for 5 people for 2 weeks.

I had a Newport 28' boat and the five of use could fit for a weekend, but no longer. The problem was when you were in 'night mode' there was NO room to move around the boat and no place to put gear. Five people for two weeks will require a goodly amount of clothes, food, drinks, and gear. I loved the Newport for a night, but longer than that and it got too difficult to move around the boat, find the gear, etc.

IMHO, for 5 people for a week or longer you would really NEED something 34'
or bigger. I don't know if you will be able to find anything decent in that size for under 10K but you can certainly look.

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Well for my family we would need a cruise ship and likely still throw someone overboard!

But some get along in tight spaces. If they spent a year in a 30 foot RV for a year they should be OK Though it will likely be a bit tighter. There are times where you just can't say "Stop that or I am pulling over!"
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Re: Thoughts on S2

I'm pretty sure that if the family is as easygoing as indicated the first trip/trips or even season might be OK.. but if they all really take to it then two or ten-foot-itis will set in quickly.

The challenges of where to put gear when ALL the berths are needed for people is not a trivial one. Either the cabin sole is un-navigable with bags etc or you're throwing stuff on deck overnight - neither of which is going to work out in all conditions at all times.

But I wish them luck!.. we've been up to 40 feet and with that boat regularly cruised with 4 adults and up to 4 kids.. we've downsized now and find our 34 footer about right for the two of us...
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Re: Thoughts on S2

The RV was a fun and enlightening experience for us. It is a bit of a moot point now though, the seller of the S2 sold it today to someone with more than i was willing to offer. Obviously wasn't meant to be. I see your point Barry, in the RV at night we took stuff out of the RV and put it in the bunks under the rig. No bueno on that with a boat. I am willing to put in some sweat equity on a bigger boat, especially because just like the RV there is no better way to learn your rig than having to wrench on it.

I have a 14, 11, and 3 y/o all accustomed to close quarters, my biggest concerns are stability and comfort, I used the sail matrix recommended above, but none of those types are available near me, can you guys recommend boats in the 33-38 ft range?
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Re: Thoughts on S2

Well it is not always just length. There are some boats, like the Buccaneer that is huge for a 30 foot-ish boat. Of course it is not known for great sailing ability or looks but they have a lot of room. Joe the Cobbler here on the forum likes his and has gone up and down the east coast. Beam can be an indicator of size as well. The Catalina 30 is quite roomy for a 30 footer and quite common. They have a large aft bunk Once you get into 37 foot or so a center cockpit can give a lot of room. The Irwin 37 for instance is big on the inside and has 2 completely separate staterooms with a roomy aft cabin some with one big double bunk, others with bunks for more people, v-birth and a decent sized salon and two heads. Talk about luxury, they are quite stable and can be found at times for good prices(low $20,000s sail-able less for not so much so). Keep in mind it is better to get as good of condition a boat as you can as refurbishing takes a lot of TIME and money. There is also a couple of bigger S2s as well.

I think for size and stability it will be hard to beat the price of an Irwin. Sturdy tanks of a boat. Some have Circumnavigated so they are capable boats.
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There is a 1983 Irwin 31 right up the road from me for 5500, the rudder post is bent it was hit by a truck while on the hard in its cradle. The owner said a new post and rudder assembly can be shipped to me for 2700, but is that a fix that I can do and be able to rely on it, or is that something too complicated. It is a wheel not a tiller so the gear and cable probably need to be replaced as well. It is a gorgeous boat for the most part, but some of the teak is worn, the stove needs replacing and one window needs a new seal. The owner has 4 kids, he said they weekend on it all around northern Lake Huron, and Lake Michigan.
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