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Here's the data cut and pasted from the national PHRF database. Numbers are low, high and average ratings based on data from the different regions. Could be your region has a reason to rate the two versions differently. Later 37s do show differences based on the keel.

TARTAN 37-1 168 174 171
TARTAN 37-1 CB 168 177 171
TARTAN 37-2 126 150 132
TARTAN 37-2 K 126 129 126
TARTAN 37-2 SD 126 141 129
TARTAN 37-3 129 129 129
TARTAN 37-3 SCHEEL 117 132 123
TARTAN 37-3 SD 114 141 126

FWIW, the T37-1 is the Blackwatch model, 37-2 is the S&S classic and the 37-3 is the jacket designed 372.

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1. How does the T 37 CB point compared to other cruisers such as Valiant 40? Tayana 37? Cal 39? Sabre 38[fixed keel]

2. Regarding leeway, is it minimal and of little or no concern? Or is it something that could make clawing off a lee shore more challenging?
The 37 will outpoint all but the Saber, but I'd only give it 2-3 degrees advantage.

Leeway IMO is not an issue on the T37C.

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FWIW, the T37-1 is the Blackwatch model, 37-2 is the S&S classic and the 37-3 is the jacket designed 372.[/IMG]
Thanks for the clarification. Looks like they have three versions listed for the T37C. I was only aware of the deep keel and Cb versions. Was there really a shoal keel version?
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A few of the last boats produced had Scheel keels. About 10% were deep keels, they are sometimes referred to as a T-38.
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Thanks Jimscal.

Can anyone explain why there is such a difference in the ratings between the T 37-1, T 37-2 and T37-3?

What year[s] was the T 37-1 manufactured? T37-2? T37-3?

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37-1 was the Ted Hood designed Blackwatch, 1967-71 (32 built)

37-2 is the Sparkman & Stephens Classic, 1976-89 (486 built)

37-3 is the Tim Jackett designed 372, 1988-93 (60 built)

The Tartan 38 is the deep keel S&S 37 with a slightly taller rig. (54' vs 52')
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addendum to Soclare

Soclare makes very good replies about the Tartan models, but it should respectfully be pointed out that the Blackwatch 37s were hull nos. 1-15, produced from 1965 to mid 1968. Hull numbers 16-32 were also produced, as Soclare correctly notes, and these were named the Tartan Classics, 1968 to 1970, when the factory burned down. On the Classic, the head was moved forward and portside, a change in the kitchen area and also available with a centerboard, as well as having a straight coach house, whereas the Blackwatch was only offered in a full keel. More history on the Blackwatch boats can be found at Tartan Classic 37 Blackwatch History
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