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Tartan 37 centreboard

The search for a boat continues and my radar is showing the T 37 as a possible. However, the centreboard concerns me from the following perspective.

1. Pointing ability. Can anyone advise how well the T37 points with board up and down?

2. How well the the CB version point compared to the 6' keel version? How many degress does the CB give up?


3. Does the CB rattle?

Thanks to anyone who can help.
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tartan 37

I had a T37 for 4 years and sailed on the Chesapeake. Bought the boat in Maine and sailed it down. Rarely use the centerboard on the Chesapeake, only if going windward and when over 15 knots. Center board made no noise. Helped sail closer to wind ,but I could not tell you by how much.
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Tartan 37 centreboard

I've owned a Tartan 37 for 15 years so I will try to answer your concerns about the centreboard.

1. I don't know if anyone can answer your first question - centreboard vs. fixed keel version of the Tartan 37. You might want to go to the Tartan 37 website and ask that question. I assume that the fixed keel can point a little bit higher that the Tartan 37 CB down. I can tell you from my experience that in pointing, the centreboard down allows me to point approximately 5 degrees higher than with it up. Again, so much depends upon proper tuning, the shape of the sail and the skill of the crew. I race my boat, and am able to point very competitively with other boats in the cruising class; on a reach or downwind, with the board up, they have a lot of trouble keeping up with me.

2. My centreboard has never rattled and I have been in serious weather over the years. A tartan hold it value.
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I pretty much concur with what has been said already...There are some good discussion about this on the Tartan 37 website. Tartan37.com • Index page
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Ditto the above, board down gains you 5-7 degrees beating into the wind, better tracking on a reach with it just out of the trunk, and all the way up on a run.

Not may 25+ year old boats still selling for their original purchase price, but the Tartan 37 is.
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The PHRF ratings for the Tartan 37-1 keel and CB versions are identical.
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Tartan 37 CB vs. Keel

Actually, the PHRF ratings are decidedly not the same. I own a T37 fixed keel (6' 7" draft) and can tell you that I must carry a lower PHRF than a CB boat.

I have sailed aboard several CB T37's and they perform well to windward with the board down. My fixed keeler will outpoint them by a few degrees and will not exhibit as much leeway while doing so - hence the lower rating.

Off the wind, things equal out. They are similar on a reach and a run, although the CB boat gives you the option of board up to reduce drag when running.

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Look at a C&C 35 MKIII K/C. Points closer and sails faster than the Tartan 37s we have encountered. Jib tracks further inward to deck house. Double spreader rig vs single. Slightly faster boat and made well like the Tartan. PHRF rated 120-127.

Also check out Sabre 36. Another quick well made boat

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Ladies and gentleman, thank you VERY much for such insightful comments. As always sailnet comes through!

A couple more clarifying questions?

1. How does the T 37 CB point compared to other cruisers such as Valiant 40? Tayana 37? Cal 39? Sabre 38[fixed keel]

2. Regarding leeway, is it minimal and of little or no concern? Or is it something that could make clawing off a lee shore more challenging?

Thanks tons guys!!!
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Actually, the PHRF ratings are decidedly not the same. I own a T37 fixed keel (6' 7" draft) and can tell you that I must carry a lower PHRF than a CB boat.
Here's the data cut and pasted from the national PHRF database. Numbers are low, high and average ratings based on data from the different regions. Could be your region has a reason to rate the two versions differently. Later 37s do show differences based on the keel.

TARTAN 37-1 168 174 171
TARTAN 37-1 CB 168 177 171
TARTAN 37-2 126 150 132
TARTAN 37-2 K 126 129 126
TARTAN 37-2 SD 126 141 129
TARTAN 37-3 129 129 129
TARTAN 37-3 SCHEEL 117 132 123
TARTAN 37-3 SD 114 141 126
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