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mikogold 12-25-2009 02:41 AM

Alan Pape cuttyhunk 41
any body knows anything about these boats?
there is one for sale in the ABC and I cant find no data about them?

mitiempo 12-25-2009 06:09 PM

Are you looking at the one in Nelson's Dockyard? Looks like a solid offshore boat. I know of them but you'd be best to ask on an English forum as there are probably none in North America (or very few). Try here Yachting and Boating World Forums
Hope this helps.

buckmarge 11-15-2010 06:20 PM

We own an Alan Pape Cuttyhunk 41!! PLease email me at
Thank you,

Captain Chris 07-28-2011 01:03 PM

Cuttyhunk 45
I have one built at Williams Boatyard, Falmouth, Cornwall, England. She is a custom one-off built with an Airex foam core. This is the only boat (ship) I have ever seen that has a bow and stern stem and longitudinal stringers throughout- in a fiberglass hull. These boats, depending on where and what they are made of surpass anything else ever built. Alan Pape's design is nothing short of pure genius. Mine is a Ketch/cutter. Really, they are a shrunk down China Clipper. This one points to 12 degrees apparent, and is superlative on any point of sail. I had her out off Bermuda in approximately 40 foot confused chop, 50 knot winds, and never took any water over the rail, only spray. If this was built in a reputable yard- buy her- you can't go wrong. In fact- Empresa won the Pepsi America's Sail Tall Ship Festival race in 2006 single handed. Took first in class, and first overall. Never been attempted before, and I suspect no one will ever try it again single handed. I can't say enough of these beauties! I would not trade her for a Hereschoff, Oyster or any other manufactured boat. The estimated replacement cost for her is 1.8 M USD. She IS NOT for sale- for any price... Need I say more?

Dogsailor 08-13-2011 09:38 AM

I can't agree w/Captain Chris more. I own a 1974 2 headsail ketch that seems to be the more common sail configuration. She is under going a complete refit due to a serious grounding before I purchased her and hopefully will see the water before much longer. I was so impressed with her when I found her I took on a much larger project than I reall wanted, but haven't regretted it yet. My wife and I have met another Cuttyhunk owner, become very good friends, and sailed several times with him in many sea conditions including an off shore delivery from Maine to Annapolis. My recommendation is if you can find one of these boats for sale buy it. The only common problem I know of is the seal around the dog house (cabin) leaks and may have rotted out some of the plywood sub deck. Check this out and plan a fairly serious repair if it needs to be done. Please let us know if you end up owning one. Oh yeah, mine is not for sale either.

bobperry 08-13-2011 12:43 PM

You say your Cuttyhunk points to "12 degrees apparent"?

I wouldn't believe that if God said it. The most high performance modern sport boats don't point that high. I'm sure that must have been a typo or you take us for idiots.

BTW, I love the Cuttyhunks. Great looking designs.
I'd love to see a pic of your boat.
I'd really like to see a pic of it pointing "12 degrees apparent".

24seven365 08-13-2011 08:43 PM


bobperry 08-13-2011 10:01 PM

I'm not trying to be "nice". I'm trying to be accurate and honest.
His boat is a wonderful boat but it cannot point 12 degrees apparent.
What's the pont of discussing the merits of different boats if we throw away reality?

A TP 52 does not point 12 degrees apparent.

Captain Chris 08-14-2011 11:56 AM

Hey Grumpy Old Man-
Don't matter to me what you believe, or not...
I won the America's Sail Tall Ship Festival Race (first place in class, and overall, Beaufort, NC, 2006) by cutting off 4 miles on the windward leg. NO other boat could. In 35 knots with a 160% Genny, she will point to 12 degrees apparent with no slippage at all. That is how I won the race. Single handed, I might add. Against professional crews...
Sounds like you need a better boat to me. The rest of the tall ship fleet certainly does.

mitiempo 08-14-2011 11:58 AM

Haven't figured out who the grumpy old man is, have you?:D

12 degrees? Only if the engine was running.

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