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BigBoatHack 08-21-2010 02:19 PM

Looking for 30-34' Club+ Racing Boat
 
Am looking for something for some casual PHRF racing. Most likely to be beer can but could include the occasional 30-60 mile race (and maybe longer). I'm east coast based so we're predominately light air (especially the evening racing). Boat should be easy to sail not some tortured IOR remnant. I don't require much of an interior. IB or OB okay. My budget could be as high as $35k for the right boat but am aiming for more like $20k.

My ideal boat is light, easily driven and can be sailed by myself, one or two adults and a couple of juniors. Have been looking at the Evelyn 32s, Olson 29s and 30s and at the upper end of the price range, the Bravura 32. With the exception of the B32, I'm looking at PHRF 95 to 115 or so. The other common feature of these boats is they're relatively fast and the loads (I presume) are relatively light (at least versus something like a Frers 33). Other thoughts include the SR-33, Soverel 33, Tripp 33, and J33 but these boat are getting heavier and presumably more heavily loaded.

Any other boats I should be thinking about? Dash 34? Hobie 33? Other? Any specific thoughts on the Olson 29 versus the 30?
Thanks.

sailingdog 08-21-2010 07:25 PM

The O'Day 302 might be a good choice as well. Sailed on one earlier this season and it is a pretty nice boat. Aft cabin as well as a v-berth, aft head/shower, fairly good access to the in-board diesel engine.

puddinlegs 08-21-2010 08:21 PM

Light air... you want an Olson 30... it's a phrf killer. It will be cheaper to run than any 33-34 footer as well. Find one for 12-15k, buy some new sails, and you should do very very well.

BigBoatHack 08-21-2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by puddinlegs (Post 635126)
Light air... you want an Olson 30... it's a phrf killer. It will be cheaper to run than any 33-34 footer as well. Find one for 12-15k, buy some new sails, and you should do very very well.

More confirmation. I'm hearing this a lot. Got any opinions on the 29 versus the 30? I like the concept of the 29 (larger main/smaller jib) but have heard some concerns expressed about the 29 wanting to go bow down given that the rig is further forward.

Edit: Hopefully I'll figure out how to get rid of the automatic hyperlinking. Though if someone could help me speed up the process, I'd appreciate it.

puddinlegs 08-22-2010 02:10 AM

Honestly, I don't know... I love the foils on the 29, but don't know if the rig really does much for the boat. There are a couple of O29 owners who post over on Sailing Anarchy. You might want to ask them. Not many 29's around either... Off the cuff, I'd think that the larger headsail would be great for light air. If I remember correctly, the spinnakers are the same size as the 30. In the end, even if all things were equal, I think you'd have better luck finding a good dry sailed 30.

Soverel 33 is great in light air, but again, it's going to cost considerably more to run that the O-30.

JimsCAL 08-22-2010 07:54 AM

In that price range and with your requirements I'd put the J-29 on the list.

JohnRPollard 08-22-2010 07:58 AM

I like the Evelyn and Olson suggestions. I've raced a fair bit on the E32, it is lightly built and fast (especially downwind!). Not much below accommodation wise (not standing headroom, for instance). We also raced against an O29 for many years and they always did very well.

Soem of the other J-boats would be on my list, too. J-29 and J-30 for instance, and I'd even consider the J-27. The J-29 has several permutations (inboard/outboard, masthead/fractional) so I'd study that one a bit before choosing which variant. Remember, if you can keep the size down, the cost of new sails will be much more reasonable.

I might even look at some of the earlier decimeter series J-boats, like the J-92 or J-80. I haven't priced them lately, but they may be within reach?

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Originally Posted by BigBoatHack (Post 635179)
Edit: Hopefully I'll figure out how to get rid of the automatic hyperlinking. Though if someone could help me speed up the process, I'd appreciate it.

No way to turn it off individually. It's something the site owners have in place so we just have to live with it.

puddinlegs 08-22-2010 08:08 AM

If one were to do a J-29 for light air, go masthead/outboard. J-30? Kind of sticky in the light stuff. J-100's go very well with little breeze, but you could buy 4 or so O-30's for the price of one. :)

puddinlegs 08-22-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingdog (Post 635104)
The O'Day 302 might be a good choice as well. Sailed on one earlier this season and it is a pretty nice boat. Aft cabin as well as a v-berth, aft head/shower, fairly good access to the in-board diesel engine.

At 168, I think the OP wants to go faster. :)

DrB 08-22-2010 05:40 PM

Any particular reason for a PHRF 95-115 rating? Why not look at a boat that sails well or better than it's PHRF rating instead of a specific number.

You might want to consider a Pearson 10M. PHRF at 135/141, under 20K, club racer. Great/Solid boat. 33' LOA, 11' Beam, but LWL is 29". Boat Displaces 13K pounds, but it is quick. I routinely beat "faster" boats with it. Yesterday I passed and out ran a Sabre 362 and a C&C 35-3, both of which have a much better PHRF rating in lease than 2 NM. Winds were 10-13 kt apparent. Point-of-sail was almost close-hauled.

DrB


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