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The community over The Plastic Classic Forum • Index page here is a good source for a project like yours. The founder of the above forum restored a Pearson 28 and you can check out that project here Pearson Triton #381 Glissando | Restoring, Maintaining, and Cruising a Plastic Classic on the Coast of Maine
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Thank You,
I looked at the pictures and was quite impressed with all the work done. I am sort of caught between wanting to do this right (expensive) or having to do this on the fly and not being happy. I am really hoping to find some middle ground.
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I posted somemore pictures on Photobucket. I have my work cut out for me. I intend to install a holding tank onboard while she is ripped apart. I am thinking of putting it on the starboard side under the hull side seat. The tank will be 20-25 gallon with a Jabsco manual toilet attached. I have one question, if anybody can answer it. The previous owner drill a 3" hole in the portside deck area next to the cabin truck. All I saw were two fiberglass layers and no core material. Is there some sort of core between the outside and inside layers on a 1966 Bristol 27. The deck area in question feels a bit soft. I have to do some repair work on the starboard side where life line stantion baseplate tore the deck around it. As I said in my first post any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I have posted some pictures on photobucket so you all can see the road ahead for me. (Pictures by tugboatdon - Photobucket) I have already spent numerous hours on the internet researching parts, pictures, opinions, materials and anything else that I can think of. I have noticed that the majoriaty of the things I have read about Bristols in general are favorably. I will keep posting pictures as I progress with this project. I am first going to replace the sole and then start on the ribs in the v-berth for planking. this will all happen after a great deal of time cleaning. Well as always Happy Sailing
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Naw, do it right! Take your time....

Take your time, do it right! Don't let desire get in the way of common sense. Any mods need to be done now rather than later. Buy only the materials needed for the part your doing now. You may change your mind about something get stuck with something you no longer want or need. Having some pix of a "complete" B27 interior would be helpful. Then...Rip it out, clean it up, paint it, put it back.
Start with photographing the entire interior and exterior, as-is. Remove everything out of the boat that's not tabbed in. First, strip the bottom. Do whatever glass repairs are required inside AND out; i.e. bottom, deck and deckhouse cores, hardware mounts(ALL! every cleat and stanchion, decored and rebedded), portlights, etc. Scrub everything down, clean, inside and out. Inside: Add tabbed "knees" to where new "furniture"/galley is to mount (This means having a Plan). RECLEAN. Paint the inner hull/bilge with a barrier coat (tinted if you like) and final coat. Add mods (tankage, etc). Rewire. Add furniture. Finish. Now the rest of the exterior......
Do it right, and maybe she'll last another 30 years.
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tugboatdon,
Haven't heard from you in a while. How goes the refit?
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I would not put in the head. I would just do the projects that need to be done to get the boat in the water. Get the topsides and the rest of the hull in a coat of paint, get the rig up, make sure she doesn't leak. Plop her in the water and go sailing. You will probably be in somewhere between $3,000 and $10,000 at this point. Then start worrying about little projects, like fixing up the interior, installing conveniences, rewiring the electrical, bedding stuff.

Fixing the core will be a gargantuan project, but if you love the boat, it can be done. Remember to always bed your hardware correctly, and make sure that all of that (plywood?) core is well sealed under a layer of GFRP or at the very least epoxy.
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At the risk of being the naysayer, I know the Bristol 27's quite well. In their day they were very mediocre boats with very mediocre sailing ability. These days they have become way over rated by people who have not sailed on enough B-27's and on the better boats of that era and the immediately following era.

The reality is that no matter how carefully you restore this boat, it won't have much resale value. No matter how much care you expend in your restoration process, it would be nearly impossible to get over $10,000 for the boat when you go to sell her and you can find these boats in reasonably clean, and totally operable condition for something on the order or $5-6,000.00.

And to properly restore one of these boats, it would be very easy to spend $15-20,000 just in materials and equipment and hundreds, if not thousands of hours of time.

It is for that reason that boats like these are sometimes said to have a negative value, by which people mean that it will cost more to even make reliably sailable than the boat will ever be worth....

Which is not to say that many of us haven't fallen into the trap of buying some old boat that pulled at our heart strings and spent years and a fortune putting the old girl back in shape. I certainly have....

My best advice is this, if you are extremely skilled at marine carpentry, fiberglassing, plumbing, sailmaking, uphoplstery, engine rebuilding, and marine finishes, and you truely look at boat restoration as your hobby, and you expect to keep the boat for a very long time and not try to sell her, and you have so much money that you don't care how much you flush on the project, then by all means proceed with this labor of love. Do a simple and reliable job of it, don't try to make her into a brand new boat, and try to keep your costs to a minimum.

Otherwise, if restoring this boat is not a hobby, and you don't have gobs of money to waste on this project, see if the person who gave you this boat will take her back (or else cut your losses with a chainsaw taken to this mess and dispose of her properly) so that you can look for a halfway decent design to learn to sail and to pour your love into.

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Hold the Chain saw

Hold that Chain saw. Not everybody thinks just because it needs work and is not the best of what new you should trash it.
I got and old truck that most people think is worth less. But it's paid for and works for me.
If you want to learn about boat repairs you got to start somewhere. If you keep it simple do some research and take your time, you can learn a lot. It will be work and Jeff's right it be a nonprofit rebuild. But if you smart and watch your money. You can clean her up, paint her up, and get her in the water next spring so you can go sailing. If you like the way she sails you can do more as time goes on. Think twice about ripping apart the deck to fix a soft spot unless it is unsafe. The big questions are, what is a must do and what is like to have. Must do's are all about is it safe and will it sail this way.
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Hello People,
I am back out on the tug and haven't had time to answer or comment on anything said. I am not going to try to bring this old girl back to "Bristol" condition. I do want her to look nice and to be comfortable. I said earlier here or on another forum that I am aware of the time, expense, and numerous future headaches involved in this project. I plan to do all the work I previously spoke of and a whole lot more. I received the boat pretty much gutted out, so putting in something like a marine toilet and holding tank now is the only way to go. I can rebuild the inside cabin anyway I desire but have been downloading as many pictures of interiors that I can. I will stick to as close to original plans as possible. I think I will have to address the deck re-core before I go into the water. I truely believe I have the skills to get this job done. I will be taking as many pictures as I can and posting them when I can. I really do appreciate the input, positive and negative. Thank you all.
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