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Re: The Joys and Pitfalls of Buying a New Boat - Part 1

[quote=SlowButSteady;927506]I would suggest buying a relatively cheap live aboard boat now and sailing the bejeezus out of it locally for a year or two (at least). Get used to the whole idea of living on a boat, and hone your sailing skills, while you figure out just what sort of boat will meet your needs. Then, when you do start looking for the boat you're going to take on "the big adventure" you'll be in a much better position to get right boat, AND you'll be much more likely to have the skills necessary to complete your voyage. Otherwise, you could easily leave in the wrong boat and without the experience you need to stay relatively safe.[/quote]

(I know this is after the fact for the first post questions..)

I like this. I have owned two (small) sailboats: a LoneStar 13 and a Paceship P-12. The first I loved, but the second was not the first boat. Besides the first being bigger when I was smaller and the second being smaller when I am a bit bigger, I liked the design of the first better.

I am in the market for a third and I feel all the things I learned from both will help me find 3Charm (sounds like a good name). (little things like, look at the trailer. Even if it is free, it has to work.)

Now only does having a first boat help you sail better, it will help you buy better.

My boat purchases were 31 years apart, so the more recent had the more valued experience.

There are a lot of things about sailing, that has little to do with hoisting a sail:

1) where are you going to store it... in the winter, in the summer, in the bay with an anchor.

2) how do you move it, if it leaves the water (my boat was in great shape --- the trailer which was the means to sailing --- not so).

3) most everything is cheaper with smaller boat.. so when you repair the outboard, you know the value to maintain the future inboard

4) companions... I had expected to have a couple friends willing to sail (and rig at the dock) but those people never materialized.

5) what do you like (or don't) in the set up.
a) I need a higher boom, since my limbo skills have diminished
b) the P-12 had an area below the cockpit that -- when capsized -- added 30 minutes to bailing (not to mention I had to get it to shore to do so)
c) the LS13 had better shackles and stays for rigging... If I kept the P-12, I would have changed that.


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[quote=dsullyec1;927701]Yes, we agree with you on this. If it came down to actually buying it, we would have the survey's done.

Typed in the link you suggested and couldn't find any articles by SailingDog or Boatpoker. However, did come across some interesting articles. We're both reading a lot now, which is helping us to learn. Going to look up the book on Amazon...see if they have it.

Personally, I think my husband and I need to do a lot more reading up on sailing, boats, pros and cons of boats, sea currents, weather, etc., etc., etc, before thinking of sailing. There's a lot to know here, and, to me, it's like learning a new language. Thanks for your feed back...every bit of info helps guide us along this new "blue road".[/quote]

Spend the summer taking sailing lessons before looking at boats in the flesh. It will give you more confidence and when you find what you think you want you can at least take it for a sail before buying. Get a feel for how difficult it is or isn't to sail.

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thank-you great info
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one may master a sloop, then you become avid at it, then a gaff rig falls into there lap, and it seems as if one has no clue on anything, until you learn by sailing it over and over, but
, then sail a junk rig, and then its like "what the...?,lol then sail a cat rig and the physics, counteracts the last ones, not to mention all the combinations of customized rigging,
, then when one transfers to a multihull, that moves 15 knots against a 10 knot wind, they will still scratch there heads, you see it has takin me 25 years, at it every day, and a dozen or so boats later, and i am still, a neophyte, learning never ends
one boat at a time, one system at a time, and only one project at a time!
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I am in the same place Dsullyec1 was in two years ago. I have decided on an older 1982 Vagabond 42 Ketch. I plan to have it surveyed by a pro. This is a big jump for me and a long time dream for the wife and I. We plan to live on it while learning to sail. I will be using the engine to putt around until I feel confidant that both of us (56 and 60) can go for the long haul and crew this boat. For now it will be my home as I clean her up cosmetically and attend to any mechanical/electrical needs. I figure by the time she is ready for open water we will be too. I admit I am nervous about retiring and living life as it should be lived but then again its time to live life so I am doing it!
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Re: The Joys and Pitfalls of Buying a New Boat - Part 1

[quote=caperss;2063377]I am in the same place Dsullyec1 was in two years ago. I have decided on an older 1982 Vagabond 42 Ketch. I plan to have it surveyed by a pro. This is a big jump for me and a long time dream for the wife and I. We plan to live on it while learning to sail. I will be using the engine to putt around until I feel confidant that both of us (56 and 60) can go for the long haul and crew this boat. For now it will be my home as I clean her up cosmetically and attend to any mechanical/electrical needs. I figure by the time she is ready for open water we will be too. I admit I am nervous about retiring and living life as it should be lived but then again its time to live life so I am doing it![/quote]

How is everything going? I know its an old thread but curious about the earning curve and challenges
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