Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Blogs               
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbldg & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Galley
Hardware
Interior
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Tlr & Wtrsprts
Videos
Clearance Items




Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest Forums > Buying a Boat
User Name
Password
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 Like this article?  Digg It!  or   Bookmark it!
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
Bardo's Avatar
Bardo Bardo is offline
Just another stop...
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Port Republic, MD
Posts: 485
Rep Power: 2
Bardo is on a distinguished road
The "T" Word

Okay, I sailed that T****N 33 that I have been looking at, last evening. 12 kts of wind or so in Solomons, MD, and a lovely warm evening. I just wanted say that, no matter what the issues are with cored hulls in general, this 1981 T****n 33 is a spectacular boat. Solid, tight, great to windward. Turns on a dime. And the boat is beautifully maintained. All of 2 spider cracks on the original gelcoat. I am in lust (and it has nothing to do with TB's family pictures).
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
Valiente Valiente is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,365
Rep Power: 4
Valiente will become famous soon enoughValiente will become famous soon enough
I thought it was the newer Tartans (I ain't no PC!) that were a little suspect, not the older ones.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
Bardo's Avatar
Bardo Bardo is offline
Just another stop...
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Port Republic, MD
Posts: 485
Rep Power: 2
Bardo is on a distinguished road
Cuncur you are right V. But there have been numerous and contentious threads concerning (ssshhhhhhh) balsa cored hulls, which the '81 tartan 33 has. No reported problems with bottoms on these boats that I can find, and the magnificent condition of the boat gives me confidence. This guy is a sailor's sailor, and has loved this boat well. We shall see....
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Ad
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
PBzeer's Avatar
PBzeer PBzeer is offline
Wandering Aimlessly
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cruising
Posts: 7,872
Rep Power: 8
PBzeer has a spectacular aura aboutPBzeer has a spectacular aura about
I wouldn't be afraid of a cored hull, just careful to get a real good survey.
__________________
John
Ontario 32 - Aria

Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love.
JCP
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
SailorMitch's Avatar
SailorMitch SailorMitch is offline
Senior Moment
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: MD
Posts: 1,926
Rep Power: 4
SailorMitch will become famous soon enough
Bardo -- Cored hulls usually elicit that knee jerk reaction you allude to because some people like to scream "fire" for no good reason. There are thousands of cored hulled boats out there doing just fine. And there are thousands of solid glass boats out there with voids in them. Go figure. In either case, a good surveyor will find any problems and then you take it from there. A good boat is a good boat no matter what the hull construction is. The T-33 is a great boat. Go for it!
__________________
SailorMitch
Sailing winged keels since 1989.
1.20.09 Bush's last day the end of an error !! Hopefully we still have a constitution and economy left by then.


"Compassion and tolerance are not a sign of weakness, but a sign of strength." The Dalai Lama


good planets are hard to find-- a song by steve forbert


I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know no way of judging the future but by the past.-- Patrick Henry.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
sailingdog sailingdog is offline
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 29,493
Rep Power: 6
sailingdog is a jewel in the roughsailingdog is a jewel in the roughsailingdog is a jewel in the roughsailingdog is a jewel in the rough
BTW, I generally would prefer foam core materials for the hull, rather than balsa. The more compressible foams are better in terms of dealing with damage and may absorb an impact enough so the inner laminate isn't breached. It is also not subject to rot in the case of a laminate penetration, but still needs to be surveyed quite carefully.
__________________
Sailingdog

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this POST.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
121Guy 121Guy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 72
Rep Power: 2
121Guy is on a distinguished road
We owned one for 17 years.

The 33 is a great boat.

Second the advice on getting a good surveyor.

Guy that did ours is in the midwest and has done several.

Spreader thru bar on original mast. water in rudder and water in deck around stanchions, rails and chainplates are key areas to look at.

e-mail for furher info if you want. johnvito at sbcglobal dot com Happy to tell you what we know!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
cardiacpaul's Avatar
cardiacpaul cardiacpaul is offline
MarineSurveyor
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In a state of confusion
Posts: 2,363
Rep Power: 5
cardiacpaul has a spectacular aura aboutcardiacpaul has a spectacular aura aboutcardiacpaul has a spectacular aura about
balsa cored hulls:
if its ok with everett pearson, j/boat and a host of others, I'm not going to crank on 'em. just get a survey.
__________________
We are not primarily on earth to see through one another, but to see one another through

Some people are like slinkies: not really good for anything... but you can't help laughing when you push them down the stairs
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
TSteele65's Avatar
TSteele65 TSteele65 is offline
Ne'er Do Well
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 563
Rep Power: 3
TSteele65 is on a distinguished road
Bardo -

Would the T33 you sailed be Magic or Tango? I took a look at Tango about a year ago; seemed like a nice boat. They've both been on the market for quite some time.

Last edited by TSteele65 : 10-02-2007 at 09:14 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 10-02-2007
Bardo's Avatar
Bardo Bardo is offline
Just another stop...
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Port Republic, MD
Posts: 485
Rep Power: 2
Bardo is on a distinguished road
TSteele,

I have looked at both Magic and Tango as well. Concur good boats. This is an order of magnitude better and fully equipped including newer sails, brand new bimini, dodger and connecter etc.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fight Club____for Sailors Surfesq Off Topic 4344 4 Hours Ago 08:20 PM
Topping Waits For Word On Son - 13wmaz NewsReader News Feeds 0 05-10-2007 06:15 PM
Detained Haitians Awaiting Word on Immigration - Bay Area Indymedia NewsReader News Feeds 0 04-22-2007 02:15 AM
? THE LAST WORD: Advice on Dr. Laura's boat - Daily Pilot NewsReader News Feeds 0 03-04-2007 03:15 AM
A passion for the written word (Cavalier Daily Online) NewsReader News Feeds 0 10-04-2006 03:15 AM

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
(c) Sailnet 2000-2006