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The "T" Word
Okay, I sailed that T****N 33 that I have been looking at, last evening. 12 kts of wind or so in Solomons, MD, and a lovely warm evening. I just wanted say that, no matter what the issues are with cored hulls in general, this 1981 T****n 33 is a spectacular boat. Solid, tight, great to windward. Turns on a dime. And the boat is beautifully maintained. All of 2 spider cracks on the original gelcoat. I am in lust (and it has nothing to do with TB's family pictures).
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I thought it was the newer Tartans (I ain't no PC!) that were a little suspect, not the older ones.
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Cuncur you are right V. But there have been numerous and contentious threads concerning (ssshhhhhhh) balsa cored hulls, which the '81 tartan 33 has. No reported problems with bottoms on these boats that I can find, and the magnificent condition of the boat gives me confidence. This guy is a sailor's sailor, and has loved this boat well. We shall see....
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I wouldn't be afraid of a cored hull, just careful to get a real good survey.
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Bardo -- Cored hulls usually elicit that knee jerk reaction you allude to because some people like to scream "fire" for no good reason. There are thousands of cored hulled boats out there doing just fine. And there are thousands of solid glass boats out there with voids in them. Go figure. In either case, a good surveyor will find any problems and then you take it from there. A good boat is a good boat no matter what the hull construction is. The T-33 is a great boat. Go for it!
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BTW, I generally would prefer foam core materials for the hull, rather than balsa. The more compressible foams are better in terms of dealing with damage and may absorb an impact enough so the inner laminate isn't breached. It is also not subject to rot in the case of a laminate penetration, but still needs to be surveyed quite carefully.
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We owned one for 17 years.
The 33 is a great boat.
Second the advice on getting a good surveyor.
Guy that did ours is in the midwest and has done several.
Spreader thru bar on original mast. water in rudder and water in deck around stanchions, rails and chainplates are key areas to look at.
e-mail for furher info if you want. johnvito at sbcglobal dot com Happy to tell you what we know!
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balsa cored hulls:
if its ok with everett pearson, j/boat and a host of others, I'm not going to crank on 'em. just get a survey. 
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Bardo -
Would the T33 you sailed be Magic or Tango? I took a look at Tango about a year ago; seemed like a nice boat. They've both been on the market for quite some time.
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TSteele,
I have looked at both Magic and Tango as well. Concur good boats. This is an order of magnitude better and fully equipped including newer sails, brand new bimini, dodger and connecter etc.
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