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C&c 26'

Does anyone have any information on this particular boat? Looks like there were two models, the C&C 26' and the C&C Encounter 26'.

These boats have more room than my 27' and seem to have very nice lines and good build quality. Any information you might have would be greatly appreciated.

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There is an owner's forum on the website liked to below that will be able to give you a lot of info. Personally - I have never heard of a C&C "Encounter" 26, and am wonering if you might be confusing it with something else. You'll be able to get some kind of definitive answer in the owners' forum I am sure...

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I've never heard of the "Encounter 26" either, but they did make a nice little 24 footer they called a C&C Niagara 24, and many haven't heard of that one either..... (we won't mention the Mega 30)

I've always thought the C&C 26 was a little chubby and stubby compared to their other offerings, almost as if they were going for 30 feet but suddenly came to the end of the roll of drafting paper . But they are roomy for their length, to be sure. There are a few around here, one has had a decent PHRF career. Another was recently tricked out with a double spreader rig that's worth more than the boat itself.....
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Thanks guys,

I had never heard of one either. I found some information on the C&C Photoalbum site and, in fact, found an interview with the designer of both the 29' and the 26' which claimed the same shortcomings with both designs...specifically the drag that is created by the wide beam and waterline ratio. They rounded the bottom to help her with light air, but in doing so created a rather tender boat. Once she healed, she stiffens right up, but not before she heels to a degree that is no longer efficient...and, wants to turn up quickly (the bow begins to plow). Also, at such a degree of heel, the rudder begins to loose its effectiveness and can become a bit sluggish. Sounds like a real fight in heavy seas and a stiff breeze...something I am not a real fan of.

We love our Vega, but do wish that we had a bit more space below for the kids. I can't complain about the way our boat handles all conditions and she is a rather fast little boat once she bears off a bit. We will keep her as we had always intended...

Just had never seen or heard of this Encounter 26', but now I know! Always good to research.

Thanks for the input!
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Have you looked at the C&C 30 Mk I ? Solid glass hull, nice performer and fairly roomy. Also check out Hughes 31SE.
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Have you looked at the C&C 30 Mk I ? Solid glass hull, nice performer and fairly roomy. Also check out Hughes 31SE.
Hey Sailormann,

The C&C 30' is definitely on the radar and is actually one of our first choices should we decide to move up. Seem to be a lot on the market, though not too many out here on the east coast. Very popular in the Great Lakes for obvious reasons...

Have not looked at the Hughes though?!?! I will check them out.

thanks for the tip!
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The story I heard was that C&C wanted at one time to reduce costs so created a 29 and a 26 in place of the 30 and 27 models for the same market. This lasted a couple of years and then they came back with the 30 and 27.

There is a C&C26 at our marina and the owners like it. It is very beamy and thus roomy below but the usual complaint about these boats is that they are slower than the 27s they replaced. The owners of the boat at our marina are cruisers and have not really commented on this slowness nor do they seem overly concerned.

Same build quality as the other C&C models around late seventies/very early 80s.

Don't know if that helps.

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I'm looking for a C&C 30 MKII, if anyone knows of one for sale let me know. C&C make a fantasic boat.
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Mike,

that is the same story that I have heard...on the money!

Like those Hughes 31's!
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Just a general comment on C&Cs: Aside from the known issues with balsa core in the decks and the general tendency to not do as well downwind as upwind, one of the virtues of C&Cs designs over a long period and over most of their model range from 25 foot-41 foot is that if you've driven one, you will have a pretty good handle on how they all can be driven. I've driven now the C&C 27 (various marks), the 29, the 30, the 33, (and I own a Viking 33, a C&C design), the 35, the 38 and the 41. While naturally not identical in sailing characteristics, they share a commonality that makes it relatively simple for a C&C fancier to move up or down the model range without expecting nasty surprises.

A notable constant is the hull forms and the ballast ratio, at least in the cruiser-racers (I haven't sailed a Landfall): C&Cs will power up going to windward and will heel strongly...and then stop and accelerate further as the increased LWL comes into play. This "stiffness" (and the tendency to go over to 20-22 degrees in a gust), is called variously "the slot", "the track" or "getting into the groove" and C&C owners can predict the conditions needed to achieve it.

It makes crewing on vintage C&Cs throughout various PHRF classes relatively straightforward, because they tend to be driven in a predictable way.

(Hughes were good boats, by the way, also, particularly the 31 and the 38, but just as an aside, I was able to outrace a Hughes 38 with a roller furler in 18-20 knots of wind in my Viking 33 with hank-ons precisely due to getting into that "slot" I mentioned and the fact I could point a good deal higher. Of course, living and cruising on a Viking 33 is like camping in the basement of a brown plaid-appointed trailer, but I digress...)
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