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01-27-2008
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Reality Check
Thanks Camaraderie, that thread put a reality check on me. Why spend the blood,sweat and tears...and money to build a nice aluminum that some pirate or 3rd world government might like better once I start cruising the southern seas? Probably better off finding a decent salvage hull from this list and spending the next few years re-building it. Got my eye on a SC 31, just don't know if it would be big enough for me and the misses for an extended period, probably better stick w/ something in 38'-42' range. Have many hours of cruising Texas coast and bays in my Hunter 27 before I'm ready to strike out across blue water anyway. Thanks again
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Does anyone know what the qualities are that a boat has to have to make the list or the qualities it has to have (or nor have) to be rejected?
Gaz
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Plumper...they have to be safe and built to stand up to the rigors of LONG TERM blue water cruising in the author's opinion and not be subject to significant and expensive known repair issues as they age. Remember this is ONE very experienced and respected authors' list. It does not include my boat so he is an idiot! 
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01-27-2008
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Originally Posted by camaraderie
Plumper...they have to be safe and built to stand up to the rigors of LONG TERM blue water cruising in the author's opinion and not be subject to significant and expensive known repair issues as they age. Remember this is ONE very experienced and respected authors' list. It does not include my boat so he is an idiot! |
My thoughts exactly! No CS! What if your RV isn't on the list?
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01-28-2008
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Funny, mine is on the list but I have reservations about it because of the amount of glass in the pilothouse. Respected or not, I guess we all have our own points of view.
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Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
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01-28-2008
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No mention of Swans except to say recent models aren't well suited. I would submit that slightly older models are fast but also built to cross oceans.
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01-28-2008
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Obviously an incomplete list, since it doesn't have a lot of multihulls that have been used for LD cruising. If the PDQs are on the list, there's no reason the Maine Cats, Geminis and several others in that size range shouldn't be on the list. There are a fair number of trimarans that also would qualify. Several of the Farrier designs, the larger Corsairs, the larger Quorning Dragonflies should also be on the list.
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01-29-2008
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Why no Jeanneau's?
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01-29-2008
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Because they are French! W/ M. Sarkozy now in charge, perhaps next years ratings will include one.
Seriously though...there are no Hunters, Bene's, Catalinas, Bavarias etc. on the list either so it is safe to assume that the author feels that production boats that are built and designed PRIMARILY as coastal cruisers, are not suitable for extended ocean voyaging and the wear and tear that entails over time. Remember...his list is not "can this boat cross and ocean".
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"Oyster 42, 45, 485,49,53, 55, 56 61, 62, 63, 66, 70, 82, 100 www.oystermarine.com ENG NZL Some have
inside steering. Attractive, expensive and first class! Weak resale value and larger
models make this an excellent, though expensive choice."
Not sure I understand the idea that they are expensive but have weak resale value. Can I assume they mean expensive "if bought new"?
And why would a highly rated boat like this have weak resale value?
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