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Old 04-22-2002
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STILL LOOKING FOR THAT PERFECT BOAT AND I AM CONSIDERING 27 COMPAC 28 PEARSON 28TO 30 CHEOY LEE OR A FORMOSA OF SAME SIZE OR A CAPE DORY
WILL CRUISE THE BAY AND MAY GO OUTSIDE FOR A LOOK AT REAL OCEAN BUT ONLY A SMALL CHANCE OF THAT! WHAT DO YOU SAILORS THINK WOULD BE THE BEST BOAT TO HAVE SAILING BLISS WITH A BUDGET OF ABOUT 27,000
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Here it comes . . . I''d skip the Taiwan and Hong Kong built boats that haven''t been retrofitted with upgraded tankage, wiring and hardware. I love the joinerwork and wood of the Cheoyosayanashiba series, but often too much can go awry. At your price level, you''ve got a wide range of possibilities. Don''t hesitate to set your sights higher and lowball offers. They can''t shoot you. Educate yourself as to your sailing grounds and overall plan and buy the biggest, most efficient, best equipped, easiest to sail most comfortable boat you can find. And take your time. Often, po'' folk purchases (like mine) are entirely situational. You might not get your ideal, but you can get on the water with a strong boat. As an example, I came close to buying a 50'' boat last year. It was a ketch rigged Hoyt/Herreschoff design. Asking $98,000.00. I looked at it and figgered $25K in upgrades, repairs and refinishes and declined making an offer. They offered it to me for $35K cash. I bailed. All a seller can do is decline. There''s a Wellington beast down here (nothing like what you''re looking at) for sale for around $100K I think. Same deal. What a monster, but it could be had for a lot less by someone who might fall in love with the thing. Water Winnebago....KW
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I am assuming that you are talking about the Chesapeake Bay. I would say from your list of possible choices that you have not really researched the prevailing conditions on the Chesapeake. The Chesapeake is notorious for its short chop and light air conditions. This favors easily driven boats with low wetted surface and lots of sail area. With the possible exception of the Pearson 28, most of the boat on your list would make very poor choices for the bay (or poking outside for that matter.)

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I third the motion.
Unless you plan to sail the world, don.t buy a boat thats poor in light air for the Chesepeke. You''ll go slow, take forever to get to where your going and might even wind up in a power boat in a couple of years.
How about somthing like a Sabre 28 or a C+C, something like that.
I like heavier boats also but for where you are?...

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Hello, Can anyone give me some info on the Lancer 27''(1984) boats? I plan to do florida coastal cruising and some living aboard. Are these good boats? Do they handle well? Is it a good beginner boat? I do not need speed. Just a solid sailer.

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So what boats do you recommend for the Chesapeake Bay? Hunter?
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KenD,
You could ...but mabey a C+C 27or a Cal 27 or a Newport 28, Lancer 28,Tartan 28 or 30 a Gulf 27 or Gulf 27 pilot house.
Pearson 28 or 30 how about a Dufour 28 or Dufour Arpege 30 or a Catalina 27 or 30 and alot more.

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Ken, If you like the pearsons or cape dory''s or compac''s, get one...In my opinion the Cape Dory''s are beautiful boats, they don''t accelerate fast or turn quickly but a good sailor can sail them in light or strong wind...
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thanks for the input I really like a heavy boat is it beyond hope that I can find a boat with opening ports and hatches traditional lines wheel steering, not a racer but not a slug either. cosmetics I can take care of , but I really hate it when you step aboard and the boat heels ten degrees and though I''ve owned the H word before I really dislike having to cover my mouth and slur my speech and maybe pretend to sneeze when replying to the question of what type of boat do you own.
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Ken:

If you like the traditional look of the Cape Dory, also check out a Sea Sprite. Very similar lines to the Cape Dory, but in my opinion, a prettier boat. It has bronze opening ports, teak toe rail, teak dorade boxes, etc. It is a modified full keel design and is a heavy boat, all things you appear to be looking for. The boats were made by CE Ryder in the early to mid eighties. They made a 28 and a 30. The 30''s are all wheel steering, and I think the 28''s were either wheel or tiller.

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