A C&C 30 mk2 with 6'6" draft?

[SebastienL]

Hello,

I'm finalizing the purchase of a C&C 30 mk2 and during the inspection was surprised to learn that the draft of the boat (measured from the waterline to the bottom of the keel while the boat is on the dry) is 6'6", which is significantly deeper that the 5'10" displayed in the spec. The boat is a 1987 C&C 30 mk2 that seem to have spent part of its life on the east coast (Mass.).

Anyone knows if there were custom C&C 30 made among the early ones? Would it be possible that a deeper keel was retrofitted? According to his observations, the surveyor felt that this last hypothesis was very unlikely.

Thanks for any hints!

Sebastien L.

[Gary M]

Does it have the classic swept back keel shape ( almost like a sharks fin) that C&C was famous for? If so it must be original as no one would custom make some thing that bad.

[SebastienL]

Here it is (attached). Beware that the photo was taken with a wide angle lense so there is a little bit of distorsion. It doesn't look different from the original (as seen here from a C&C brochure)

[Whissell]

Hi SebastienL

We to owned a C&C 35 MK III. Her keel was also longer than should have been. We had the opportunity to sail with one of the fellows who worked for C&C and he told us that as C&C was closing down and boats where being finished that whatever keel fit the stub that was sitting on the factory floor is what went on the boat rather that manufacture another when they were closing. I know this is a late post but we've been sailing and don't spend much time on the net.
Hope this helps oldsailor100

[Sanduskysailor]

The picture is the right keel for the 30, Mark II model. Without the boat in the water it is hard to tell what the actual draft is. On some boats there is always 6-8' of bottom paint sticking out of the water.

The method to accurately measure actual draft is to run a plumb bob from the rail to a point that is perpendicular to the bottom of the keel. Obviously this done with the boat out of the water. After the boat is launched, rigged and loaded, take a ruler and from the mid beam point check the distance to the water. Do the other side and average the two measurements. Subtract this measurement from the one you took on land and voila the actual loaded draft.

The 30-2 never had a deeper keel as a factory option. A deeper keel would have to have a narrower chord width and/or a taller mast for the design to work. Nice boat and a big 30 footer.

[SebastienL]

Thanks for all the answers! I'll make sure to take measurements as described before launching the boat.

[Drumroll30]

Sabastien,
I answered your post on the C&C photoalbum forum a while back, did you see it?
Your boat's draft is actually 5'10", it floats far above the bootstripe
and a few inchs of antifouling paint remain visible when she is on her lines.

Allan Rheaume
Drumroll, Montreal
1988 C&C 30 Mk II

[SebastienL]

Originally Posted by Drumroll30

I answered your post on the C&C photoalbum forum a while back, did you see it?

This is strange I haven't receive any notification on that previous post! Thanks for pointing me there, I'll need to verify what happened with my profile there...

Where do you sail Drumroll? We are looking for a place on lake Champlain, please let me know if you have suggestions!

[Drumroll30]

Hi Sebastien,
The C&C photoalbum forum doesn't send notifications when a post receives replies, you have to check it from time to time.

I kept my boat in Kingston for around 10 years, my work situation changed and I brought it to Lac St.Louis in 2006 though I usually go back to Eastern Lake Ontario region during summer vacations. I may possibly move the boat to the Bay of Quinte area in a year or 2.

I haven't sailed Lake Champlain since 1995 so I'm not really up to speed on the marinas in the area. Check out the voile abordable forum en francais, lots of friendly members with boats in Lake Champlain there.

[Stowaway]

Sebastien:

Yes, there are a few 6'5" deep draft C&C30 Mk.II s out there. Hulls #17, 18 and 25 are ones I have measured at that depth (they are all '87), as is another in my club that I haven't got the hull number for. C&C really messed up on the brochure with 5'10 as I have not found one that shallow. We have an shoal draft at the club, another '88 - Making Waves, and it is consistent with Allan's measure of it.

If you need anymore info, please let me know.

Owen - Stowaway V #25