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I'm finalizing the purchase of a C&C 30 mk2 and during the inspection was surprised to learn that the draft of the boat (measured from the waterline to the bottom of the keel while the boat is on the dry) is 6'6", which is significantly deeper that the 5'10" displayed in the spec. The boat is a 1987 C&C 30 mk2 that seem to have spent part of its life on the east coast (Mass.).
Anyone knows if there were custom C&C 30 made among the early ones? Would it be possible that a deeper keel was retrofitted? According to his observations, the surveyor felt that this last hypothesis was very unlikely.
Does it have the classic swept back keel shape ( almost like a sharks fin) that C&C was famous for? If so it must be original as no one would custom make some thing that bad.
Here it is (attached). Beware that the photo was taken with a wide angle lense so there is a little bit of distorsion. It doesn't look different from the original (as seen here from a C&C brochure)
We to owned a C&C 35 MK III. Her keel was also longer than should have been. We had the opportunity to sail with one of the fellows who worked for C&C and he told us that as C&C was closing down and boats where being finished that whatever keel fit the stub that was sitting on the factory floor is what went on the boat rather that manufacture another when they were closing. I know this is a late post but we've been sailing and don't spend much time on the net.
Hope this helps oldsailor100
The picture is the right keel for the 30, Mark II model. Without the boat in the water it is hard to tell what the actual draft is. On some boats there is always 6-8' of bottom paint sticking out of the water.
The method to accurately measure actual draft is to run a plumb bob from the rail to a point that is perpendicular to the bottom of the keel. Obviously this done with the boat out of the water. After the boat is launched, rigged and loaded, take a ruler and from the mid beam point check the distance to the water. Do the other side and average the two measurements. Subtract this measurement from the one you took on land and voila the actual loaded draft.
The 30-2 never had a deeper keel as a factory option. A deeper keel would have to have a narrower chord width and/or a taller mast for the design to work. Nice boat and a big 30 footer.
Sabastien,
I answered your post on the C&C photoalbum forum a while back, did you see it?
Your boat's draft is actually 5'10", it floats far above the bootstripe
and a few inchs of antifouling paint remain visible when she is on her lines.
Allan Rheaume
Drumroll, Montreal
1988 C&C 30 Mk II
This is strange I haven't receive any notification on that previous post! Thanks for pointing me there, I'll need to verify what happened with my profile there...
Where do you sail Drumroll? We are looking for a place on lake Champlain, please let me know if you have suggestions!
Hi Sebastien,
The C&C photoalbum forum doesn't send notifications when a post receives replies, you have to check it from time to time.
I kept my boat in Kingston for around 10 years, my work situation changed and I brought it to Lac St.Louis in 2006 though I usually go back to Eastern Lake Ontario region during summer vacations. I may possibly move the boat to the Bay of Quinte area in a year or 2.
I haven't sailed Lake Champlain since 1995 so I'm not really up to speed on the marinas in the area. Check out the voile abordable forum en francais, lots of friendly members with boats in Lake Champlain there.
Yes, there are a few 6'5" deep draft C&C30 Mk.II s out there. Hulls #17, 18 and 25 are ones I have measured at that depth (they are all '87), as is another in my club that I haven't got the hull number for. C&C really messed up on the brochure with 5'10 as I have not found one that shallow. We have an shoal draft at the club, another '88 - Making Waves, and it is consistent with Allan's measure of it.
We recently bought a C&C 30 mk2 and we are a little confused with the gib car tracks. There are double tracks and neither seem to have a direct line to the winch without getting caught up on a sharp edge somewhere. We tried using both jib cars at the same time, but it doesn't help much. Any insights on this? Any way to find out how the jib car tracks should work?
We hope our draft is 5' 10 as our slip is only seven feet deep at the present time.
There is a double turning block between the two aft winches, possibly 6 inches from the rail on both sides which we assumed would be for a spinnaker. We tried it with the jib sheet and it seemed to have a more direct line from the jib car to the aft self tailing winch. Is this turning block intended to be used with the jib sheet? We previously had a G&S 30ft Custom which was pretty much a racing platform with few ceature comforts so it is interesting discovering how this boat works which is focused on comfort as well.
I will try to find a picture if that would help.
Thanks for any help.
Cathy
Cathy those turning blocks are for you genoa sheets, if using a spinnaker the turning blocks are clipped on to the black rail. If you go straight from the car on the track to the winch I agree it is a straight line but you'll end up getting raps stuck around the winch when you tack....I learned that the hard way the first year I had my boat.
Thanks Allan for the info! Using those turning blocks did seem the best way, but we hadn't seen that before. I agree, gib sheet wraps stuck on the winch are not fun. So far we love this boat. We live just oustside Hamilton Ontario and were surprised to find one for sale where we live. We are going through the learning curve now.
I hope you enjoy the boat as much as I have in the last 14 years, absolutely no desire to move up to anything else. I'm on the eastern side of Lake Ontario, Prinyer's Cove in between Amherst Island to the east and Picton to the west.
I'm back with more questions for the C&C 30 mk2. How does one check the level of the holding tank?
Allan, I am very jealous. I love Prince Edward County and would move back there in a heartbeat. I lived in Carrying Place for a few years growing up and have never found a place I like more. Prinyer's Cove is a lovely place.
Only 2 ways to do that, either install a tank level gauge or hold your breath and look into the inspection port. Theres a hole drilled in the plywood of the cockpit locker floor, thats your inpection port under it. It is a good sized tank at 33 gallons and gives you good autonomy away from doing regular pumpouts.
The one that just sold in Whitby is hull 175, the last 30-2 made. I don't know where the other 2 are, I did see one for sail in Halifax a few years back but I don't know where it ended up.
Are you in the market for one?
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