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Re: 30 vs 33

Cool, in case you lost it I will FB my phone number to you. Thanks it's supposed to be a nice weekend to.

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Re: 30 vs 33

Go to Marine Survey 101 and scroll down to the C&C33 hanging in the travel lift and the following photo of the keel step collapsing. Note that there was no evidence of a grounding causing this damage.

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The damage itself is evidence that it has been run aground. Bent rudder, loose and out of plumb keel, what else do you need to know. Any actual impact damage can be easily filled and painted.

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I've owned a 30 and sailed over 30 years on a friend's 33.

Both are sweet boats.

I preferred the 30, the reason I bought one. The primary reason is that the 30 has a more useable interior. The 33 has a sloping foredeck that removes the headroom forward of the mast, and the head is open to the v bearth. Having cruised both boats, I consider the 30 to be more liveable.

Secondly, over years of PHRF racing the several 30s in the fleet would consistently beat the several 33s, period, boat for boat. Not always, but regularly. Occasionally when the class breaks had the 33's starting 10 minutes earlier, on a breezy day the 30s would still beat them.
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Re: 30 vs 33

Thanks folks. Looks like it's all irrelevant at the moment now anyway, but always good to know

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Go to Marine Survey 101 and scroll down to the C&C33 hanging in the travel lift and the following photo of the keel step collapsing. Note that there was no evidence of a grounding causing this damage.
FWIW I thought the thread was about mid-70s 33s, which would mean Mark I, the vessel in that picture is not a Mark I. Aside from differences in bottom and keel shapes, the Mark I did not have floor boards. Yes to a C&C Mark II. The Mark I's, in both the 30 and 33 were fairly indestructible hulls.

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Re: 30 vs 33

With everthing being so close in performance, I would try to get into a Mkll, over a Mkl, if financially possible. For resale reasons.
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Re: 30 vs 33

Like the poster above, I own a 30 and compete frequently against a 33, both Mark 1, mid 70s. He and I swap the club season trophy back and forth between us. I think we've monopolized it for the past 10 years. Our only real competition is a same vintage C&C 38. I think the 33 has nicer lines, the 30 looks chopped off in the stern. Interior is about a toss-up but the 33 has a quarter berth which is a plus. He can reliably outpoint me by 5 degrees but his tracks are located farther inboard than mine and I think that makes the difference. I don't think you could go wrong with either boat. Both are quintessential C&Cs. Agree the V drive is a pain- the stuffing box is unreachable.

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Any comments on the relative stiffness? The 30 is well known to be a very stiff boat, something the Admiral appreciates.

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Re: 30 vs 33

I think the 30 is the stiffer of the two; my best shot at beating the 33 is in the nasty stuff, but the 33 also loves to sail when the wind and waves are up. Personally, if I had the choice between the two boats in equal condition I'd take the 33. That said, I love my 30.

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