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Re: 30 vs 33

The 30 Mark I well earns its reputation as the stiffest C&C design. My personal experience racing the 30 Mark I, was that in 18 knots of beeze or more, the 30 Mark I performed well above its rating, and we would frequently beat many of the bigger boats that started 10 minutes ahead of us across the finish line. The magic of the design is that it also sailed to its rating from 6 and up...

That said, the 33 Mark I does have sexier look and is a sweet boat in any regards.
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Re: 30 vs 33

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I would never try to talk anyone out of a C&C-- they're really great boats. However, I would make one qualifying statement based on my own experience. The 70's vintages (and the later ones for the most part) don't adapt well to dodgers and biminis. They weren't meant to. You won't see many C&Cs of any vintage carrying canvas.
On the 30 Mk 1 the boom is so low over the companionway that fitting a dodger is problematic- it has to be made so low that it's not very usable. Likewise, biminis have to be made very short to clear the boom. The Mark 2 is better because they raised the boom about a foot.
For all its good qualities, my wife really doesn't like the boat because of the lack of shade and wind protection. If that's an important feature for you or your wife, you may be better off looking at other boats. For something of comparable quality and feel that tends more toward the cruising side of cruiser/racer, look at the CS.

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Re: 30 vs 33

Yep, main problem is the only CS30 listed anywhere around here is at $40k, and that is a long way out of my budget (at the moment all boats are out of my budget on account of still having Tangerine ). I've looked at a couple of C&C30s with dodgers, one was a late model Mk1 where the boom was also raised a foot so the dodger was actually pretty decent.

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... I've looked at a couple of C&C30s with dodgers, one was a late model Mk1 where the boom was also raised a foot so the dodger was actually pretty decent.
The boom was raised a foot between the 1976-1977 years...someone out there knows the hull number for this change...

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Re: 30 vs 33

I mentioned it on another thread too, but check out a Yankee 30. It's a very stiff 30 footer, they fit a dodger, and around here (at least on the south side of the border) they are about as common as a C&C 30. They are faster too.

Neither worked for me in the end since they are missing a quarterberth. Another downside is that most either have an Atomic 4 (also common in C&C 30s) or an obscure diesel.

Islander 30 should be about as stiff as the C&C and is also really common and does have the quarterberth.

I found that my wife hates unexpected boat movement (so it's motion in heavy water) more than a lot of heel. The Pearson heels quickly before stiffening up and that usually works pretty well for us. The extra weight still makes my Pearson get blown around a lot more (especially with following seas) than my friends Yankee 30.

The Yankee 30 is a really heavy boat, but it has a lot of sail area to match it. That's why it can be fast and very stiff. Most of the weight is in the keel, it's B/D is a lot higher than the C&C 30, which is already higher than many similar boats.

The Tartan 30 is also a lot like the Yankee 30 (both are S&S designs), though with a bit more beam and B/D that is like the C&C 30.

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Re: 30 vs 33

I've seen a few adverts for the Yankee, looks a nice boat, not as pretty as the C&C, would have to see one in person to get a better idea of the layout below as well. Not very common round here, closest one is Seattle which is a good trek for me.

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This is where sailboatdata could really use a "find boats like this one" feature (that sorted based on B/D, SA/D, etc). I'm certain that there are other common enough PNW boats with a design similar to what you are looking for, but finding them one at a time isn't as easy as it should be.

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Re: 30 vs 33

I guess the popular boats are popular for a reason. Anyway, it's all just a discussion at this point, I will likely keep Tangerine for at least another year now.

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The 30': C&C 30-1 (1-506) looks like a good time!
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[QUOTE=jimgo;1007990]I'm not sure what kind of info you're looking for. Try these for the standard (non-shoal keel):

30': C&C 30-1 (1-506) sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

I own HIN #675 and it has the factory 2gm so dont beleive all you read.
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