Cal 2-24 I found one!! - SailNet Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 7 Old 01-02-2014 Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Albuquerque NM
Posts: 40
Thanks: 13
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Cal 2-24 I found one!!

I am negotiating a possible purchase of 1969 Cal 2-24 hull #129. The deal sounds good, but I know it will need fitting out. It looks like someone was doing restoration on it and stopped early on, so far the hull looks good, the work done looks good, but the clincher is that the boom is missing. I don't perceive this to be major for me, I have knowledge of aircraft structural methods and know how to work aluminum. I also have a mill and lathe and can fabricate fittings if I have to, even have some big chunks of aluminum laying around. But what I would really like to have is the specs and design of the original boom. Is there anyone who can help me? The owners manual would be awesome! If not anyone who owns one, if you could provide me with some photos and a few dimensions it would go a long way and be much, much appreciated.
Steve523 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 Old 01-02-2014
me at 67!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,925
Thanks: 55
Thanked 125 Times in 114 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Re: Cal 2-24 I found one!!

Don't want to burst your bubble.. but what are they paying you to take the boat off their hands? You can do better.. MUCH better. good luck!


Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!

Last edited by deniseO30; 01-02-2014 at 12:34 PM.
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to deniseO30 For This Useful Post:
Steve523 (01-03-2014)
post #3 of 7 Old 01-02-2014
Just another Moderator
 
Faster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 16,534
Thanks: 104
Thanked 312 Times in 300 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
Re: Cal 2-24 I found one!!

Finding a used boom shouldn't be too difficult, your ability to make bits and pieces will come in handy too.. You don't mention price, and today such boats go very very cheap when they are in good working order, so as Denise alluded to, this had better be one heck of a deal.. Elsewhere on this forum someone picked up a Cal 27-1 of similar vintage and also needing some TLC for a few hundred dollars.

Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Faster is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 7 Old 01-02-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: New Orleans Louisiana
Posts: 2,355
Thanks: 7
Thanked 82 Times in 78 Posts
Rep Power: 4
 
Re: Cal 2-24 I found one!!

I think you are better off saving your skills for other things. Booms are extruded because of the teardrop profile. You could certainly machine one if you wanted, but it would be much more expensive than buying one. Alternatively you could find a close section of either an old mast or boom, and cut it to length. Then build your own gooseneck.

Greg Rubin
Attorney
Stumble is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 7 Old 01-02-2014
Old enough to know better
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Beacon, NY
Posts: 3,098
Thanks: 19
Thanked 128 Times in 124 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Cal 2-24 I found one!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve523 View Post
I am negotiating a possible purchase of 1969 Cal 2-24 hull #129. The deal sounds good, but I know it will need fitting out. It looks like someone was doing restoration on it and stopped early on, so far the hull looks good, the work done looks good, but the clincher is that the boom is missing. I don't perceive this to be major for me, I have knowledge of aircraft structural methods and know how to work aluminum. I also have a mill and lathe and can fabricate fittings if I have to, even have some big chunks of aluminum laying around. But what I would really like to have is the specs and design of the original boom. Is there anyone who can help me? The owners manual would be awesome! If not anyone who owns one, if you could provide me with some photos and a few dimensions it would go a long way and be much, much appreciated.
Basically on a small boat like this, there are three things that basically make a boat have zero or negative value:

1. Rigging
2. engine
3. sails

If it does not have any one of these it essentially has no value. If two of these things are not in good shape it will have negative value. You say it's rigging is missing a boom, so unless it has clean and crisp sails and a good functioning engine then it ought to be free or close to it. A couple of things that might make up for the boom, would be a mint interior, brand new sails still in the plastic, All new gear, like winches and what not that could be sold to recoup some of the cost when you want to get rid of the project. Remember boats are big, so they are expensive to dispose of, unless you can convince someone to buy it from you!

And I will add there have been very few "unfinished restorations" that I have seen that I would say had quality work.
miatapaul is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 7 Old 01-06-2014 Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Albuquerque NM
Posts: 40
Thanks: 13
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Re: Cal 2-24 I found one!!

The guy is asking 1500.00 but this process is slow and ongoing, I'm doing research as time goes by. He's not in a hurry and neither am I which is to my advantage if I deem it to be too expensive, I'll have plenty of well thought out reasons why. The boat is sitting on a tandem axle trailer that needs some paint/corrosion work (no big deal). If I paid 1.5k, I would probably put another 1.5k (not including my labor) and then have a top notch boat. As for how good a boat it is, I think it is ideal for my situation and where I'm at. Getting it in and out of lakes around here would be a bit of a pain and I would need a dinghy in tow because of the draft. My buddy says a boom is no problem, lots of scrap yards in L.A. should be able to get an original. Oh yeah, there are 6 sails but I have not looked them over yet, waiting on a buddy to go with me that has a lot more hands on experience.

And yes I know, I could do better. If I still lived in Cocoa Beach Florida, I could find someone begging people to take away a boat. But I'm in a new Mexican desert and this guy lives down the road a couple miles, and I have tog et my buddy to haul it out if I do buy because my suv won't do it.

But the really important thing is this. I want to sail, and I want to do it as much as possible, where I am at now, with what I have available in places and resources. Why? Because I think it will greatly increase the chances that I will one day sail where it ought to be done and that I can make that transition with some experience under my belt and some useful knowledge and talent.

Last edited by Steve523; 01-06-2014 at 12:11 PM.
Steve523 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 7 Old 01-10-2014 Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Albuquerque NM
Posts: 40
Thanks: 13
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Re: Cal 2-24 I found one!!

Well I guess the owner backed out of trying to sell, or maybe I knew too many of the right questions to ask, who knows. It's all good I still have the Tanzer 16 and lots of practicing to do. I found an Albin Express that would be a much much better deal (right here in Albuquerque, go figure). But no response from the seller yet, bet that one is gone.

I guess the trick is to just keep your eyes open and wait once you decide to commit yourself to the whole idea of owning a bigger boat......
Steve523 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Found it! utchuckd Gear & Maintenance 3 07-15-2013 08:37 AM
I think I have found what I want minnow1193 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 31 02-02-2013 09:17 PM
Cal 2-29 vs Cal 2-27 (Crown 28, actually...) saltfree Boat Review and Purchase Forum 9 10-20-2012 06:53 PM
Found a 34 jamesdb Pacific Seacraft 6 02-19-2011 05:41 PM
CAL 2-25 aka CAL Mach II for Sale NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 07-07-2007 04:15 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome