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CAL 25 cockpit not draining

Had some rain yesterday and when I got to the boat the cockpit was half full with water! Is this normal for this boat when it rains? I had to bail it out. This worries me. I think it is draining but very slow. Anyone know what I can do about this? I am afraid a hard rain could sink her!
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Most of the Cal 25, 27 and 29's I've seen have a drain at the aft end of the cockpit sole that discharges through the bottom center of the transom. It's fairly sizable and, on our old boat, would normally drain a cockpit filled to the level of the seats in 2-3 minutes. There is, however, a little collection basin adjacent to the drain-hole that can easily clog with debris--leaves and what have you--that will slow or prevent draining. This is especially so if a prior owner installed a "flapper valve" cover over the outside of the drain to prevent following seas from blowing water back into the cockpit.

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Good news: It happened at the dock.
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Mine has 2 drain holes in the front of the cockpit. When I look inside the cabin there are 2 small drain hoses that lead into the bottom of the boat. They are most likely clogged, I imagine they drain on the very bottom of the aft area where they go in. I need to get this taken care of asap
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There should be valves at the hull...make sure they are open, then try rodding out the line with a stiff piece of wire if the run is straight enough. There is a possibility that the valves, if present, will not move - but are probably open and can be cleared.

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I don't think it has valves, only drains with hoses attached. The only thing I notice is the 2 drain holes on the floor of the cockpit that lead to those 2 hoses in the inside which are just under the opening to the cabin. Both of the hoses are attached with hose clamps on each end. I am nearly sure they go straight down to the bottom of the hull into the water. It has to be just debris clogging them up. I am going to try to rod it out, should be all thats necessary and its what I first thought about doing. Thanks for the help!
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If that's the case, you will want to put in seacocks (valves that can be closed) between the bottom of those hoses to the thru-hulls the next time you have her out of the water.
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Humm... You must have a newer Cal. In any case, Skylark is correct. Any through-hull below the waterline should have a seacock to allow it to be closed when/if necessary. In re: cleaning, you may find an investment in a plumber's snake (or the rental of one) worth the investment. Depending upon your location, you may also find that critters have set up house-keeping in your drain-lines and need be removed to keep the lines clear.

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This happened on my Ericson 28 which had been sitting for a while prior to me buying it. After much rodding to no effect I donned my scuba mask and went underneath with a long screwdriver and picked some very interesting sealife out of the thru-hulls. After that, all now drains nicely! As for sea-cocks on cockipt drains, I questioned this when I bought the boat and my research showed that they are not such a good idea as the cockpit always needs to be able to drain rain and seawater. If you think about it, why would you ever want to close these off?
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....As for sea-cocks on cockipt drains, I questioned this when I bought the boat and my research showed that they are not such a good idea as the cockpit always needs to be able to drain rain and seawater. If you think about it, why would you ever want to close these off?
If the hose ever failed or came adrift - or needed to be changed - it would be nice to be able to close off that largish hole in the hull.....

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