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Thorp 09-20-2010 09:47 PM

Checking out cal 1971 tomorrow. What to look for?
 
Greetings,

First sailboat purchase.

I plan on checking this boat out tomorrow:
1971 28ft cal sailboat with outboard

Anything I need to look into on the cals? It seems to be a great price.

I scuba dive. Checking out the hull below the water is a reasonable thing to do, yes?

Thanks,
Thorp

Thorp 09-20-2010 09:48 PM

And here is my 2nd post... so I can post the link!

sailortjk1 09-20-2010 09:53 PM

Wet deck core, leaky chain plates, rotten bulk heads, leaky port lights, soft mast step....

jackdale 09-20-2010 10:08 PM

Hire a surveyor to check it over. The results of his findings should be a condition of sale.

Your insurance company may insist on a survey.

The boat should be hauled for the hull inspection - by the surveyor.

RTB 09-20-2010 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackdale (Post 646192)
Hire a surveyor to check it over.

For a $1700.00 boat?

If it floats, go sailing!

tommays 09-21-2010 06:46 AM

Well

I would sure do some serious poking as Cals do have there issues

http://i565.photobucket.com/albums/s...131_135725.jpg

RNC725 09-21-2010 06:53 AM

Congrats
 
Methinks as long as there are no gaping holes and such......have fun and go sailing!

If money can fix it -- it ain't broke!

Fairwinds

Bobby Centers
1967 Cal 30

eherlihy 09-21-2010 07:40 AM

Things to check;
  • Clear Title - no yard fees or anything else. Make sure that the seller understands that you expect a NOTARIZED bill of sale, should the sale complete.
  • Keel Bolts - should all be present, and not corroded. - If possible, check the keel to see that it cannot move with relation to the boat.
  • Rudder/Wheel - move vigorously from stop to stop. Make sure that rudder Pintles & Grudgeons/Bearings are OK.
  • Outboard - start it, rev it, put it in gear (don't leave the dock), take it out of gear, stop it, raise it, lower it. make sure everything works.
  • Chainplates - make sure that they are solid, and firmly anchored where they belong.
  • Rigging - should be serviceable, but not new (and not mickey-moused).
  • Sails - raise them at the dock. There should not be holes, rips or tears.
  • Ask at the marina office if the owner is up to date on his account.

Even though the boat is only $1700, a survey would still be advisable.

Here is an illustration of why:

Here is a picture of two of the keel bolts in the bilge, as I saw them when I first looked at the boat;
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...e/DSCF1180.jpg
Yes, the bilge was dirty, but I figured that I could clean that up.

During survey, I noticed that the keel didn't quite look right. To me, it seemed that the keel was off center about ". Here is a pic that I took during the survey of the keel stub joint; http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...y/DSCF1522.jpg

Several people present (yard manager, broker, and IIRC even the surveyor) said that was normal. I persisted and the surveyor and I eventually discovered that the keel could rock side to side about 1/8". The survey came to an early end.

... and here are the exact same pair of bolts after the keel had been dropped;
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...y/DSCF1526.jpg
You can see another keel bolt to the left that is in similar condition. Of the eight keel bolts, THREE were OK. The keel bolt in the right of this picture is an example of what I consider to be OK.

Bottom line is that this repair is costing the current owner (not me!:)) over $8K to get this fixed.

Good luck!!

Waltthesalt 10-22-2010 01:22 PM

Look for hull blistering

Thorp 10-31-2010 11:03 AM

Thank you everyone for the advice. It was well received.

I ended up buying this boat. No remorse what-so-ever. It is my first boat- it is everything I was looking for and more. She has definitely been some work but in doing this work, I am building a connection with her and learning her ins and outs. Wouldn't have it any other way.

The first 'big' ordeal has been the sheaves. The sheaves in the mast head were seized. I scaled the mast but wasn't able to get them loose while up there. They were really stuck. The mast has a tabernacle and the next step was to lower the mast to be able to get at those sheaves better. Nerve racking as **** the first time through but we managed without a hiccup. Got the sheaves out and now it is time to purchase new sheaves and clean out the mast head. Any advice on a spray to help clean the head out? A wire brush will be my primary. And any advice on what to install, sheaves and line wise? I think I am going to side with all line halyards vs line to wire. Seems much easier, straight forward and without a downside but my knowledge on the topic is nil.

This has been about the only thing going my way in life, presently. Gotta get out of the box and do it. Sometimes that box looks as those it is 6 inch thick steel. In reality it is paper thin and punching a hole through it is effortless when in the right mindset. Happy sailing.


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