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Catalina 30 or 34 for SF bay?

I'm thinking about a sailboat for SF bay. Most of my experience is in a Cal 24 (a later 83 model) and the Merit 25.

I love the Cal for the room inside, the dry, roomy cockpit, the boom that doesn't hit my head (I'm 6ft 5"), and the stability in strong winds. In fact, I think it's a great boat. I'd just get one except that I want a bit bigger boat with a proper head and more sleeping room. The Merit seems to lose to the Cal on all counts except speed. In particular, it seems very tender. Often the main will be reefed and it still feels overpowered.

So I think what I'm looking for has a lot of the attributes of the Cal, but in the 30 to 34ft range. My research pointed to the Catalinas.

So how is the Catalina 30 or 34? My budget would cover one in good shape - probably 79 to 87 in year.

In particular I want stiffness in the bay's gusty strong winds. Both Cat models seem to have reasonable SA/Ds (15-16 range). Is the fin keel stiffer? How are they compared to a Cal 31 or Ericson 32?

I know that SA/D is only a tiny bit of the picture. The Merit and Cal have similar measurements but behave very differently.
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I would venture to say that there may be more Catalina 30s on the Bay than any other design. That's gotta mean something.
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I believe the Cat 30 is one of the stiffest production boats out there, without being a slug at the same time. The 34 is a good, comfortable roomy boat and I believe that there are several members on this board that sail 34s and 36s in your area.

Hopefully they'll be chiming in here soon.

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I believe the Cat 30 is one of the stiffest production boats out there, without being a slug at the same time. The 34 is a good, comfortable roomy boat and I believe that there are several members on this board that sail 34s and 36s in your area.

Hopefully they'll be chiming in here soon.
Thanks for the reply, sounds promising!
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Those boats are purpose designed for the kind of sailing scene you're describing....protected bay sailing and coastal cruising within sight of land. Watch for common issues like the "Catalina Smile" and a rotted out compression post area causing delaminiation at the deck.

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How about it? If anyone sails a Catalina 30 or 34 in SF Bay I'd love to hear from them.
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I recommend that you get a Catalina with the "standard rig," not the "tall rig" given the high winds in SF Bay. I strongly recommend the deeper fin keel versus the shallow wing keel for SF Bay, it will be stiffer and will go to windward better. I had a 1987 Catalina 30 Mark II for 8 years and I sailed as crew on a Catalina 34. I have sailed on SF Bay, but most of my sailing was racing on Lake Erie.
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Re: Catalina 30 or 34 for SF bay?

I sail on the bay with my Catalina 25....you will notice that there a ton of Catalina's on the bay. The 25 is much to small and I am also looking for something a little bigger (something the wife and kids can sleep on).
I went to the boat show in Jack London Square a couple of weeks ago and there were some nice Catalina's (used ones as well) there.
I think there was some good advice given in another post regarding the keel - deeper is better for the bay.
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