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All,

My oldest son is worried that he will be bored on the charter (he is 20). He stated, "from what I can tell, all there is to do is sail and snorkel." Seems enough to me, but can anyone give some ideas on things for he and my 16 y/o to do? I do plan to rent a sailboard for the length of the charter, but any other ideas are appreciated.

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Mike;

There is a ton of stuff for a 20-year old to do in the bvi. Besides snorkeling, try getting a basic windsurfing rig from your charter company--most of them offer them as a "boat toy", along with kayaks, etc.

There''s a lot of great places to party too, without getting in too much trouble. The full moon party at trellis bay (I think) is great for all ages--it gets wilder as the night wears on, so you might want to set a curfew. There are similar events all over the place in the bvi.

There are usually some good parties and just plain good hang-out spots at the Bitter End on Virgin Gorda, and Saba Rock will be fun for him too--a loud rock n'' roll party every night (don''t anchor too close).

If he likes music, he needs to spend an evening at Quito''s in Cane Garden Bay. A very fun place for 20-somethings. Also, there''s tons of hard-to-find CDs in the bvi in every trinket shop and market. Lots and lots of caribbean stuff that his friends will envy when he goes home.

And hey! It''s the tropics, and he won''t be the only bored young person around: some of them will be girls. I sure with _I_ had spent some time in the BVI when I was his age.

You might want to check out www.traveltalkonline.com and look at the bvi forum. There are several archived discussions on this topic, and a lot of other good info for any first-timer in the bvi. Have fun.

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I''d add to that, let the boys plan a day or two. By planning the day I mean planning departure and arrival times, picking the destination, doing the navigation and the sailing or motoring if they choose, picking where/whether to anchor or moor, what to do when you get there and selecting where/what to eat. Unless they are putting life or property in jeopardy (real jeopardy, not just something you might not do) let them plan whatever they want. Resist the urge to correct, help, critique, or offer any assistance unless asked for.

Myself at that age, I would have liked nothing more than being given the dingy for the day to explore anywhere I wanted sans adult supervision, North Sound would be a great base for that activity. A handheld VHF in the dingy would make this option less stressful for your and your wife. Others like bob_walden above, sound like they would enjoy more of the social opportunities. Mike31, I know you mentioned your wife, the admiral, was not too fond of a night out drinking for the boy(s). But if it''s going to happen, the BVI on sail charter is probably a pretty safe place. No cars to drive, no violent crime to worry about, no close friends to get into trouble with, and very little chance you''ll run into anyone you know or will see again! About the worst thing would be having trouble finding the boat after a night out and the hangover the next day.
Just keep an open mind, be willing to let the kids make some SIGNIFICANT decisions, even if you don''t fully agree.

The difference between an adventure and an ordeal is attitude.(shamelessly copied from somewhere, but very true).

Brian
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One thing occured to me to add: please be sure to cover all possible safety issues with your crew for dinghy operations. There was a very sad event in the bvi earlier this year, when a dinghyload of young people coming back from a party at night was run down by a large motor-craft. Both boats were at fault: the dinghy was showing no lights, and the motor launch was running way too fast in the mooring field. Very tragic--I think there was at least one youngster killed, and several injured.

Dinghies need a light at night, preferably several. One person at the front of the boat should keep a flashlight, hopefully with a glow-tube/wand on it, aiming forwards, while the dinghy motors SLOWLY. And everyone needs to be keeping watch, and possibly shining flashlights on and off at any vessel that looks to be under way and heading towards them. Needless to say, drinking and boating don''t mix--the dinghy driver needs to be sober. Finally, they all need life preservers at hand, and the presence of mind to don them if needed.

Dinghies are great fun, but please make sure that young folks are reasonably safe with them, and keep their speed down to 5mph or less inside mooring areas. As the previous poster said, your son, if he''s at all like any other 20 year old, will do things with a dinghy that we would not do, and he should! Heck, we''re all only 20 once. But hopefully he won''t risk anyone else''s safety while he''s having fun.

Hope your trip is great. We''ll be there Jan 13-26, on "Leap Frog", a Beneteau 41 out of Road Town.

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All,

We just returned early this morning, and we had a great time. Sunsail provided excellent service, and I plan to use them in the future. We did learn about the 2 people killed in their dinghy when they were run down by a powerboat. It turns out this occurred in North Sound right near Saba Rock. There was an article about it in the local sail magazine (forget the name, similar to Soundings here in New England).

The weather was very good, the only rain we had was after we had moored or anchored for the evening. Dinner at the Willie T was rather laid back by their standards, but we did go on a Sunday.

Thanks to all for the advice given, and I can''t wait to go back.
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