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Old 03-25-2005
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14d Greece charter :Athens - as far as possible - Athens???

I''m afraid that this thread degenerates again into a fight about good chartering practices and possible frauds committed and negligence shown by some Greek chartering companies. Enough is said and written about this subject and certainly our novice friend aaidonnow is not helped by the year 2005 rehearsal of the same old play. The question of safety at sea is not to be taken lightheartedly because it can have dire consequences with liabilities for third parties. The universal drill described by “sailmaster” is part of the “International Certificate of Competence” test which to my knowledge is applied and enforced in Europe only by SPAIN for chartering purposes. Nevertheless, dangerous at sea can be not only unexperienced charterers but also (and more so because they think that damage is only at their own expense) unexperienced boat owners, particularly, to my personal experience, MOTOR BOAT skippers, certainly not because of lack of appropriate certificates but mere reckless behaviour! So now welcome back to the main point: whoever thinks that having sailed (even extensively) on dingies is able to handle a 36 ft. yacht in unpredictable, gusty, well above force 6 and ever changing wind direction conditions is qualified, to my view, as reckless. The Aegean is not for novice yacht or book-learning sailors and inexperienced night navigators. Every yacht chartering company will confirm that sailing is not for “mathitevomenous magous” (apprenti sorcier in french) and you don''t need a law to replace COMMON SENSE.
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14d Greece charter :Athens - as far as possible - Athens???

interesting how things never change in greece ? its still the best place to charter a yacht, the cheapest, has the best sailing and requires the least qualifications....
so what is every one complaining about?
Try doing all that in england....
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Old 03-31-2005
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14d Greece charter :Athens - as far as possible - Athens???

spot on sailmaster! would the non experienced
charterer let a pure novice car driver borrow
his car for two weeks!!!
I `m fed up with idiots who cant even put a mooring rope on damaging ours and other yachts.
get some training first and then charter.A good halway house for learners is to sail on a flotilla in more sheltered waters like the
Ionian.
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