Greece- Athens-Cyclades - itenerary question

[blackkevlar]

You got to love it... 7 day charter cut to five days, and you pay for the privilage too !
Actually Bab's from Fyly(**** Your Life Yachting), is full of BS...Greece is the only country in Europe pulling this 7day to 5 day charter and they have been getting away with it for years......
Lets see p/u at charter bases in the Solent is noon... so is return... last time I checked in Italy when we went to Sardinai sailing vacation it was on the boats by 10/noon and gone by 3pm...
So why do the Greek Brokers play this game... simple money... actually they also play a few other interesting tricks... fuel prices at the end of the trip... watch that one... they will charge you 50-75 cents more a liter to fill your yacht up at the end, giving you the lame excuse that it costs them extra to call the fuel truck down to the dock.... the fuels trucks live on the dock during summer months so why the extra cost ? they want your money... any buisness that does not own its own yachts and exists purely from commission and selling charters on other peoples yachts has to make up the difference some how... never mind the outlandish commissions they charge the poor blody owners... (PBO's)... would you let your yacht charter out and then pay the broker 30-45% commission of the fee ? for what? a name an address of a client, how much is that worth ?... I guess it depends on alot of things....
one of them being SERVICE...

Rich come to Greece and have a wondeful time.. Chrondi has given you some great ideas for places to see and good luck with the greek language...

I apologise for the state of Alimos Marina, as a chartering Marina it makes a war zone seem more friendly..... I aplogise for the Greek borkers who will do there best to rip you off... heck they already got you for the 7day to 5 day racket.... lucky you are not taking a captain...another good ploy... charge you 150 for the captain, pay the captain 100...
and do not get me started on the insurance scams they play !!

Rich have a great time here but, watch your wallet and always ask questions and DEMAND SATISFACTORY HONEST ANSWERS !

[blackkevlar]

You got to love it... 7 day charter cut to five days, and you pay for the privilage too !
Actually Bab's from Fyly(**** Your Life Yachting), is full of BS...Greece is the only country in Europe pulling this 7day to 5 day charter and they have been getting away with it for years......
Lets see p/u at charter bases in the Solent is noon... so is return... last time I checked in Italy when we went to Sardinai sailing vacation it was on the boats by 10/noon and gone by 3pm...
So why do the Greek Brokers play this game... simple money... actually they also play a few other interesting tricks... fuel prices at the end of the trip... watch that one... they will charge you 50-75 cents more a liter to fill your yacht up at the end, giving you the lame excuse that it costs them extra to call the fuel truck down to the dock.... the fuels trucks live on the dock during summer months so why the extra cost ? they want your money... any buisness that does not own its own yachts and exists purely from commission and selling charters on other peoples yachts has to make up the difference some how... never mind the outlandish commissions they charge the poor blody owners... (PBO's)... would you let your yacht charter out and then pay the broker 30-45% commission of the fee ? for what? a name an address of a client, how much is that worth ?... I guess it depends on alot of things....
one of them being SERVICE...

Rich come to Greece and have a wondeful time.. Chrondi has given you some great ideas for places to see and good luck with the greek language...

I apologise for the state of Alimos Marina, as a chartering Marina it makes a war zone seem more friendly..... I aplogise for the Greek borkers who will do there best to rip you off... heck they already got you for the 7day to 5 day racket.... lucky you are not taking a captain...another good ploy... charge you 150 for the captain, pay the captain 100...
and do not get me started on the insurance scams they play !!

Rich have a great time here but, watch your wallet and always ask questions and DEMAND SATISFACTORY HONEST ANSWERS !

[chrondi]

Posting to a thread three and a half years after it was abandoned and seeking further detailed information seems totally irrelevant. On the other hand, the outburst of anger from blackkevlar is understood only in view of the current poor outlook of the chartering market. Companies providing good service will still survive. Those on the edge and trying to make a living on their clients' expense will eventually disappear. It's up to the charterer to make the right choice and contribute to the rationalisation of the system.