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Originally Posted by tommyt
Alex,
Had a few minutes and stopped off in your Common Sense thread. Do you ever start any SHORT threads?
Anyway, you reference licencing for captains in Portugal if they are not on their own boat. How does that affect this planned trip? Would we have to have a Portuguese captain on each boat?
If so, can I get a fast one? I think you or Alexandre would be nice! Not that I want or need an advantage. It's just that I am old and want to be win.
OH, and it is possible that Siamese is an evil twin. Maybe his good brother would like to join this group.
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Tom, and all, yes you will need a Portuguese skipper in each boat, unless you or any have licences. (another possibility is if we sail inside the 5 mile circle around the marina, you guys can sail as part of a sailing school agreement they have with the Navy for instruction), but that needs confirm also because everyone will see us racing around the boueys.
But, I had planned that all coming, (if possible, and I mean if possible means I need to conform this with the Portuguese Navy, to be sure), all coming would sit the exams in one of the days, (where me and Alexandre will help with the English, and the logistics), and all would leave with a "basic Skipper" or "Sailing Sportsman" licence. For that we would all have to swim a short distance and show a few boat moves to the inspectors, like tacking, docking, etc. That is what I also had planned.
Anyway, I spoke yesterday with Bernardo, the owner of the boats and sailing school, and we're coming up with prices etc.
Right now I have planned at least 4 days at sea from 9 to 5, meaning 4 hours in the morning, break for lunch in the cascais marina, and 4 hours in the pm.
The first day would be spent for you guys to adapt to the boats, and in the pm a sailing trip to Lisbon (small 25 mile passage).
Day 3 a race in the am and another small cruise around, then the last 2 days we make races and cruises around. All very relaxed.
Off course the more days we use the more expensive it gets. And we have to figure out hotels and transportation.
One of the problems I see now is that the US dollar is so low, and what may seem cheap for us, may be expensive for you guys, because we still have to add the cost of fares, and accomodation here (unless you guys camp in my garage!! ehehehe...
Bernardo said he was giving me a special price of 400 Euros per day per boat (all inclusive). If we crew each boat with 5 people it will cost $480 US dollars per person for the boats alone.
Right now I think this is something that will cost each of the people coming:
$600 to $1000 Airfare return to Lisbon, some of you may get better deals in the US thru the net providers.
$690 for accomodation in real nice Hotel, for 6 nights, cheaper maybe if I get these guys to give us a better rate, most probably yes, I think I can get a deal for $450 per person.
Add to that food.
$500 for food for the 6 days eating good in Antonio's place, maybe cheaper.
Transportation we'll figure out something with my cars and Alexandre, but I would say $100 per person, since you'll be sharing the cab between 4 or 5 people.
So we're looking at:
So right now the whole 6 days, including the airfare at $1000 bucks, the boats, hotel, food etc. we're looking at $2600 per person.
Please guys, the more join in the cheaper it gets.
Please jpin in will you??
Like I said, these are values I am calculating now, that can get lower.
Do you think its feasable?