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Thanks Yamsailor, that's excellent information!
Do you have any thoughts on the San Diego area? Is it a likely spot to either start such a venture or to find employment with someone else's outfit?
What about SF?
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You are welcome. I know absolutely nothing about the West Coast market. You may want to contact the National Association of Charter Boat Operators. I am not a member but I have heard they have some good information. Here is the link: NACO - National Association of Charterboat Operators
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You may want to contact the National Association of Charter Boat Operators. I am not a member but I have heard they have some good information. Here is the link: NACO - National Association of Charterboat Operators

again, many thanks!!
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Thanks Yamsailor, that's excellent information!
Do you have any thoughts on the San Diego area? Is it a likely spot to either start such a venture or to find employment with someone else's outfit?
What about SF?
Many thanks!
If you work for for someone else you'll make $20/hour, no benefits. To have a shot at making money in the charter business you need to own the business...and the business needs to be a success. Even in a temperate clime, that is a long shot. If you are doing a 6pack daytrip business, you'll need to pay for the boat, the dock space, business costs, and a mate's salary before you make a buck.

Having a scheme where you can count on a consistent 70-80% occupancy level on an inspected vessel, would give you a chance at making a iving, but finding that level of business is challenging.

FWIW, this business is for sale:
http://www.cheerscharters.com/index.html
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If you work for for someone else you'll make $20/hour, no benefits. To have a shot at making money in the charter business you need to own the business...and the business needs to be a success. Even in a temperate clime, that is a long shot. If you are doing a 6pack daytrip business, you'll need to pay for the boat, the dock space, business costs, and a mate's salary before you make a buck.

Having a scheme where you can count on a consistent 70-80% occupancy level on an inspected vessel, would give you a chance at making a iving, but finding that level of business is challenging.Cheers Sailing Charters on Hilton Head Island
This is all great info as well!
Many thanks again!!
It certainly sounds like a challenge to make a living wage at the business, even if one is additionally diversified with other related gigs, but clearly there are individuals and orgs out there that are doing it... so my question then becomes, what are some of the key ingredients to a successful business model with this? Certainly marketing must play a large part, not to mention word-of-mouth reputation, but further than that what other considerations come into play here?
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Another option is being an ASA certified instructor. Sailing instruction is often combined with renting boats.
We chartered from this company Emerald Coast Yachts - ASA Sailing School and Charter Company a couple years ago.
What they do is find people who are willing to put there boat in charter. They take a percent of the charter revenue and the boat owner gets the rest.
It was a couple and they were working very hard but seemed to be better after a couple bad years because of Katrina.
They didn't have to own the boats.
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Re: Charter business

You may want to check out these guys: Santa Barbara Sailboat Charters - Boat Rentals - Kayaking - Santa Barbara Sailing Center
Not to far from you and they hire a lot of captains as they have a pretty big operation.
My wife got her ASA 101 from them.

One thing you may not know is that all the sailing instructors I have seen are very up front about being willing to accept tips. So while the $20 per hour may be about right you may end up with a little more.

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Castorp,

Assume you already have your USCG license?
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If you work for for someone else you'll make $20/hour, no benefits. To have a shot at making money in the charter business you need to own the business...and the business needs to be a success. Even in a temperate clime, that is a long shot. If you are doing a 6pack daytrip business, you'll need to pay for the boat, the dock space, business costs, and a mate's salary before you make a buck.

Having a scheme where you can count on a consistent 70-80% occupancy level on an inspected vessel, would give you a chance at making a iving, but finding that level of business is challenging.

FWIW, this business is for sale:
Cheers Sailing Charters on Hilton Head Island


While I agree you need to have your own business to make any descent money, you can make a little money if you find the right situation. Some relief captains are given 1/3 of each trip plus tips. In a good location, a relief captain can make $400/day ($800/weekend). No benefits.
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