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Re: NOAA Apparently a Political Advocate President Obama (Thomas Point Broken)

*throws up hands*

Yeah, I know what it means.

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Re: NOAA Apparently a Political Advocate President Obama (Thomas Point Broken)

if you didn't eat undercooked hands, that wouldn't happen, donna.

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Re: NOAA Apparently a Political Advocate President Obama (Thomas Point Broken)

If NOAA/USCG said the bouys were redundant or archaic and are being closed to save money I 'd be all for it.

But they are not.

They are a Government agency advocating for public policy holding services hostage.

Like the phony White House Tour closure and air traffic control slow down.

Unethical at the least, and an illegal violation of the Hatch Act at worst.
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Re: NOAA Apparently a Political Advocate President Obama (Thomas Point Broken)

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If NOAA/USCG said the bouys were redundant or archaic and are being closed to save money I 'd be all for it.

But they are not.

They are a Government agency advocating for public policy holding services hostage.

Like the phony White House Tour closure and air traffic control slow down.

Unethical at the least, and an illegal violation of the Hatch Act at worst.
I sort of agree, so -
Because that's just the way I am, I sent an email asking.
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Dear Mr. RXXXXr:

The Hatch Act (5 U.S.C. §§ 7321-7326) governs the political activity of federal civilian executive branch employees, including NOAA employees. While most employees are permitted to engage in a variety of political activities, they are prohibited from, among other things, engaging in political activity while on duty, in a federal room or building, while wearing an official uniform or insignia, or using a government vehicle. 5 U.S.C. § 7324. Political activity has been defined as activity directed toward the success or failure of a political party, candidate for a partisan political office or partisan political group. 5 C.F.R. § 734.101.

You ask whether an update on the NOAA website regarding the President’s budget being passed violates the Hatch Act. As noted above, political activity is defined as activity directed at the success or failure of a partisan candidate, political party, or partisan political group. The President is not currently a partisan candidate, and the phrase “pending full funding of the President’s FY14 budget” does not oppose or support a partisan candidate or political party. Rather, it serves as an informational statement. Accordingly, posting this on the NOAA website would not violate the Hatch Act.


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So apparently one of the most partisan presidents in modern history isn't partisan because he's not currently running for office.
I'm out of this thread, I hate it when I get political.
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Re: NOAA Apparently a Political Advocate President Obama (Thomas Point Broken)

^^^

Typical.

Hey lookie, the weather update is current today, so they no longer need Our Dear Leader and Beloved President's FY2014 budget to pass!!

It isn't as if any of his budgets have gotten a single vote in either house by any Republican OR Democrat!!

Continuous Winds TIME
(EDT) WDIR WSPD
4:00 pm SE ( 127 deg ) 5 kts
3:50 pm SSE ( 147 deg ) 6 kts
3:40 pm SSE ( 154 deg ) 6 kts
3:30 pm SSE ( 165 deg ) 4 kts
3:20 pm SSE ( 168 deg ) 4 kts
3:10 pm SSE ( 152 deg ) 4 kts
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Oh crap, its about to hit the fan. Station Fowey has gone intermittent:

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It appears the Bouy's have got the "Blue Flu"!!
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Re: NOAA Apparently a Political Advocate President Obama (Thomas Point Broken)

Update;

It is no longer "President Obama's" FY2014 budget!!

NDBC - Station TPLM2

Station TPLM2 is transmitting intermittently.

The NOAA National Data Buoy Center has deferred annual maintenance for buoys and C-MAN stations until further notice. We hope to resume maintenance of the coastal and offshore weather buoys and C-MAN network next year, pending adequate funding in FY14
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Re: NOAA Apparently a Political Advocate President Obama (Thomas Point Broken)

I continue to notice some outrageously incorrect marine forecasting lately. More than usual. Not that one day proves anything, but we chose an anchorage on Sun night that really requires southerly winds to work and they were forecast as SE at 3-5 kts. We woke to NW winds honking at 14 kts.

I wish we knew the real story. Here are some possibilities:

1. The sequester picks cuts that will annoy the public for political reasons, even though other cuts actually make more sense.

2. The maintenance program for these buoys is a bureaucratic nightmare, requiring a crew of 37. 1 worker and 36 observers and they are trying to change it.

3. These buoys are simply unnecessary and there are better ways to forecast weather.


Not meaning to get political here, just a clarification. There is no constitutional requirement for Congress to actually follow a budget. There is protocol to have one and a rational person would think there should be one. However, they can authorize appropriations for whatever they chose, budgeted or not. My point is, these cuts are a choice. They may be made to balance the budget, reduce expenses, or whatever floats anyone's boat. That's fine. I'm just adding that the passage of a budget will be technically irrelevant to whether these are reinstated. A budget line item gives one's cause some tailwind, but it ain't over till Congress writes the check. You decide what motivates them to do so or not.


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Re: NOAA Apparently a Political Advocate President Obama (Thomas Point Broken)

Someone at NOAA changed the narrative as clearly documented here. It's subtle, it's no Benghazi, but it was done.

From implying that Obama's budget will restore accurate and timely forcasts, to simply harping about more money like they always do!!
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