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I'm surprised that the humidity didn't read higher.
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We should be in Worton Creek tomorrow evening. Perhaps we'll see you there.
With thunderstorms threatening in the afternoon, we departed for Bohemia at 1100, an hour or so later than I hoped. Sailing conditions were benign, so the small craft advisory was overkill. We did, however, dodge our first Chesapeake storm which quickly crossed from Annapolis to Georgetown around 1300, right as we were approaching Howell Point. It ended up being little more than a spinkle, but it was a good drill for us to lash the sail and bimini, move everything that wasn't waterproof down in to the cabin, don harnesses and tethers, etc.

Shawn - Did you make it to Worton Creek? We went back to retrieve our car at 1700, and saw this:


It was pretty scary looking.

By the way, we did have a few Japanese Beetles land in our boat as we were crossing the mouth of the Sassafras.

We came home for the July 4 festivities in town, only to get a last-minute message that they are canceled. Late tomorrow night I will return to Bohemia to sleep over on the boat, for an early departure to return the boat to Essington.
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With thunderstorms threatening in the afternoon, we departed for Bohemia at 1100, an hour or so later than I hoped. Sailing conditions were benign, so the small craft advisory was overkill. We did, however, dodge our first Chesapeake storm which quickly crossed from Annapolis to Georgetown around 1300, right as we were approaching Howell Point. It ended up being little more than a spinkle, but it was a good drill for us to lash the sail and bimini, move everything that wasn't waterproof down in to the cabin, don harnesses and tethers, etc.

Shawn - Did you make it to Worton Creek? We went back to retrieve our car at 1700, and saw this:


It was pretty scary looking.

By the way, we did have a few Japanese Beetles land in our boat as we were crossing the mouth of the Sassafras.

We came home for the July 4 festivities in town, only to get a last-minute message that they are canceled. Late tomorrow night I will return to Bohemia to sleep over on the boat, for an early departure to return the boat to Essington.
Shawn is safely anchored on the inside at Worton. He left the club after. 6 and the big line of t storms. The gust front brought a few 50 mph gusts in the slip.
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Re: 2014 Sailing Season

So my wind reports are calling for 22mph NNW off of Gibson Island today. Is everyone else seeing the same?
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Re: 2014 Sailing Season

Light winds today, just 5 to 10 NW in the bay north of Pooles Island. Of course the actual wind speed is much greater- the Susquehanna River Bay Buoy shows 11 to 15 kts, good sailing conditions, but I have to work till 3 p.m., at which time the wind usually dies.

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Re: 2014 Sailing Season

Nice vigorous sail up the Elk River this morning, close hauled into the northwesterly with no need to tack. Bohemia River was a couple feet below normal because of the strong northwesterlies blowing down the bay. Past Welch Point and through the canal, I left the genoa up and made 6 knots through the canal with motor on idle.

Winds are gentler now, but I'm under sail heading up the Delaware River. It's been an interesting week thanks to the weather, but we had fun despite our scaled back plans. Saw lots of eagles, ospreys, and herons. And just a second ago I was hit in the face by a flying Japanese beetle.
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Nice vigorous sail up the Elk River this morning, close hauled into the northwesterly with no need to tack. Bohemia River was a couple feet below normal because of the strong northwesterlies blowing down the bay. Past Welch Point and through the canal, I left the genoa up and made 6 knots through the canal with motor on idle.

Winds are gentler now, but I'm under sail heading up the Delaware River. It's been an interesting week thanks to the weather, but we had fun despite our scaled back plans. Saw lots of eagles, ospreys, and herons. And just a second ago I was hit in the face buy a flying Japanese beetle.
You are aware you are not permitted to sail through the canal. It is mandatory that you motor. You were creating a potential hazard to navigation in a narrow channel should a gust of wind and it was gusty shoved you off course.

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You are aware you are not permitted to sail through the canal. It is mandatory that you motor. You were creating a potential hazard to navigation in a narrow channel should a gust of wind and it was gusty shoved you off course.

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I am aware of the rules in the canal, and I was following them. I was under motor power, and therefore not under sail by definition. I checked this out a few years ago with a USCG boat that pulled up next to me to verify that my motor was running, and he said what I was doing complied with the rules.

I was not creating a hazard. Neither were the four other sailboats who I saw doing the same thing. I would not put both sails up, because it takes too long to drop them if necessary. But with the genoa up, I can furl it on a second's notice. And my oversized motor is plenty powerful to maintain any course in a gust, but that is irrelevant because there were no gusts. You weren't there to witness the conditions, so really should not judge the hazard of my actions. I also would never tack across the canal, only put up the sail if the wind is from the right direction to give a gentle push.
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I am aware of the rules in the canal, and I was following them. I was under motor power, and therefore not under sail by definition. I checked this out for a few years ago with a USCG boat that pulled up next to me to verify that my motor was running, and he said what I was doing complied with the rules.

I was not creating a hazard. Neither were the four other sailboats who I saw doing the same thing. I would not put both sails up, because it takes too long to drop them if necessary. But with the genoa up, I can furl it on a second's notice. And my oversized motor is plenty powerful to maintain any course in a gust, but that is irrelevant because there were no gusts. You weren't there to witness the conditions, so really should not judge the hazard of my actions. I also would never tack across the canal, only put up the sail if the wind is from the right direction to give a gentle push.
•Sailboats - Transiting the canal by vessels under sail is not permitted between Reedy Point and Welch Point. The use of auxiliary power is mandated.

Sir , unless I read your post wrong you stated you were under sail power with the motor on idle. Having the motor on idle in most explanations means, that it is not your primary means of propulsion.

So how fast does your 25 ft boat go under idle normally in flat water? What component of the speed you were doing was being powered by the small outboard you have under idle. If the majority of your speed came from your sails isn't correct to say you were under sail power?

Yes maybe you want to quibble, but by your own admission you were sailing flirting with the regulations.

You however have also assumed that the other vessels traveling were not using their engines as primary propulsion. Were they all main motoring or did all four have jibs out?

In addition no one ever accused you of trying to tack or anything like that. You superhuman reactions must be superior to mine as a gust could hit your sails and turn your boat before you could react to correct it, that is unless you have some ability to read the gusts.

You say you can furl a sail up in a seconds notice which I challenge. Especially in a large gust or if it gets backwinded or jammed. Something which could happen easily in the canal with a wake of a large cabin cruiser.

The last three days till noon have been particularly gusty with Arthur pulling away combined with frontal passage or were you in a no gust bubble zone. Our friend Shawn was able to sail down the Delaware Bay to Cape May today which in most instances is very rare.
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Re: 2014 Sailing Season

My 15 horsepower motor is double what is typical for my size and weight boat. On fast idle I can do 4 knots SOW. Somewhere around the route 1 bridge, the canal turned directly into the wind so I furled my Genoa and went on motor alone. At that point I was doing 5.4 knots, so I had about a 1.5 knot current pushing me from behind.

I did not run my motor at a single speed. I set a goal to make 6 knots and unfurled my jib, and adjusted the motor to get to my desired speed. The amount of motoring I needed a varied as I transited the canal.

Three other boats had jibs up, one had main up. I noticed a couple had exhaust coming out of their motors. You'll have to track thm down if you want to ask them how fast their motors were running.
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