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Re: Annapolis to Rappahannock River; mid-point overnight stop

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Solomans Is (Mill Cr.) Is my usual halfway to the Rappahannock, from the Annapolis area.
For a 31 ft. boat, you'd be 'pushing it' to make the L. Wicomico in one day.
However, if you're in a good NW'er and the tides are 'with you', then Smith Cr. on the North Shore of the Potomac ... just up the river from Pt. Lookout is an optimistic one (long) day under 'supreme' reaching conditions.
As I mentioned above, I did basically the same trip, same time of year and I covered 100 miles in one day coming down the bay from Rock Hall to the Yeocomico. Yes, he could go up river to Smith Creek, but an extra hour will get him to Smith Point in VA. The Coan River in VA would be a better choice than Smith Creek. About the same distance coming from the north, but about an hour closer to his destination the next day.
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That sounds sort of like Windmill Point. There is a struggling development right at the point there that comes close to that description, though I think the plan is a waterfront community rather than RV park. Just a tad too remote to catch traction apparently.
I could have sworn it was off the Coan River. I can see it clearly in memory. There is a large rectangular basin. At the time two thirds was built-out as a marina and the far end was an empty lagoon. You sailed down the fairway to get through the marina and into the lagoon where you could anchor. Huge RV park and small campground. Very far from anything. A little run down when I was there in 2008 or 2009. I know the owner was trying to sell so maybe it isn't even a marina anymore.

I spent some time with Google Earth but nothing is popping out.

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If I was going to stop
Which was my point - don't plan to stop but DO plan for bail-outs. The characteristics of a good bail-out are different than those of a general cruising destination. Ideally there would be a good place to leave the boat if the problem that led to bailing takes time to resolve, services either on-site or mobile, access to transportation, and at least a restaurant.

Accordingly Reedville is a decent bail-out regardless of what it smells like.

Many of my friends get frustrated with my approach to covering ground. "Go, then go some more." *grin*

The time and place to do research on bail-outs is in a comfortable place with good Internet and a big screen. Much more productive than trying to decide where to go after something has failed when your resources are more limited and your attention is divided. You hope that your work is pointless because you don't need to stop.

Which leads to an important point for the OP: make sure you have towing insurance. TowboatUS Unlimited Gold or the SeaTow equivalent is the way to go.

Anyway transportation makes the Western Shore much more attractive than the Eastern Shore for bail-outs. If something does happen and the OP has to drive home it would be nice to have a two or three hour drive instead of six or eight. There are always gotchas - in Deltaville for example the marinas are outside the range of Enterprise to deliver a rental car. Frustrating. I've schmoozed a ride to a restaurant where Enterprise would come get me. Sometimes you have to be creative.

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The overnight option is a better bet for non-stop, especially having to go all the way up to Norris Bridge.
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There's only 2 marinas on the Coan. Lewisetta Marina and Coan River Marina. Coan closed down a few years ago and I don't believe it ever opened back up. I've used Lewisetta for winter haul out for many years.
Can River marina is open again with new owners.

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As I mentioned above, I did basically the same trip, same time of year and I covered 100 miles in one day coming down the bay from Rock Hall to the Yeocomico. Yes, he could go up river to Smith Creek, but an extra hour will get him to Smith Point in VA. The Coan River in VA would be a better choice than Smith Creek. About the same distance coming from the north, but about an hour closer to his destination the next day.
The problem with the Coan R. is that the 'entrance' at Walnut Point is getting VERY skinny and questionable at normal low tide for anything deeper than about 5'6"; once your 'in', no problem. This leaves the adjacent Glebe R. which tends to 'funnel' winds from the SW. (My wife is an editor of one of the Chex. Cruising Guides, so we visit a lot of anchoring places on the Chex. on a semi-regular basis ... Im 'just the 'driver').
Actually if you check, Smith Creek is probably a shorter 'run' from the mouth of the Potomac than the Yeomico R. or the Coan/Glebe R.
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I could have sworn it was off the Coan River. I can see it clearly in memory. There is a large rectangular basin. At the time two thirds was built-out as a marina and the far end was an empty lagoon. You sailed down the fairway to get through the marina and into the lagoon where you could anchor. Huge RV park and small campground. Very far from anything. A little run down when I was there in 2008 or 2009. I know the owner was trying to sell so maybe it isn't even a marina anymore.

I spent some time with Google Earth but nothing is popping out.



Which was my point - don't plan to stop but DO plan for bail-outs. The characteristics of a good bail-out are different than those of a general cruising destination. Ideally there would be a good place to leave the boat if the problem that led to bailing takes time to resolve, services either on-site or mobile, access to transportation, and at least a restaurant.

Accordingly Reedville is a decent bail-out regardless of what it smells like.

Many of my friends get frustrated with my approach to covering ground. "Go, then go some more." *grin*

The time and place to do research on bail-outs is in a comfortable place with good Internet and a big screen. Much more productive than trying to decide where to go after something has failed when your resources are more limited and your attention is divided. You hope that your work is pointless because you don't need to stop.

Which leads to an important point for the OP: make sure you have towing insurance. TowboatUS Unlimited Gold or the SeaTow equivalent is the way to go.

Anyway transportation makes the Western Shore much more attractive than the Eastern Shore for bail-outs. If something does happen and the OP has to drive home it would be nice to have a two or three hour drive instead of six or eight. There are always gotchas - in Deltaville for example the marinas are outside the range of Enterprise to deliver a rental car. Frustrating. I've schmoozed a ride to a restaurant where Enterprise would come get me. Sometimes you have to be creative.



Exactly.
Good commentary about the need for 'bailout places' - important especially in the earlier part of the sailing season when tornadic thunderstorms are traditional.

Mill Creek across from and a bit south of the entrance to Reedville is damn good anchorage for almost all wind directions.
The intensely smelly 'fish plant' at Reedville has been shut-in for several years due to federal fisheries menhaden harvest restrictions. I don't know the current state of the 'shut-in'.
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The problem with the Coan R. is that the 'entrance' at Walnut Point is getting VERY skinny and questionable at normal low tide for anything deeper than about 5'6"; once your 'in', no problem. This leaves the adjacent Glebe R. which tends to 'funnel' winds from the SW. (My wife is an editor of one of the Chex. Cruising Guides, so we visit a lot of anchoring places on the Chex. on a semi-regular basis ... Im 'just the 'driver').
Actually if you check, Smith Creek is probably a shorter 'run' from the mouth of the Potomac than the Yeomico R. or the Coan/Glebe R.
2 things...the OP was asking about marinas and my suggestion is Lewisetta marina on the Coan which doesn't take you anywhere near Walnut Pt.
If you look at the map, the distance from the Pt. Lookout turn to Lewisetta is less than a mile further than to Windmill Pt. marina on Smith Creek. So it is just a little further to get to the Coan but the next day the Coan to Smith Pt. is much shorter than Smith Creek to Smith Pt, probably about 3 miles shorter.
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Can River marina is open again with new owners.
Glad to hear they opened back up.
I see you are in Callao. I keep my boat at Freddies. Have known him since I was a kid when he and his dad started building the marina.

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Glad to hear they opened back up.
I see you are in Callao. I keep my boat at Freddies. Have known him since I was a kid when he and his dad started building the marina.
I'm the sailboat across the creek, just to the north.

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2 things...the OP was asking about marinas and my suggestion is Lewisetta marina on the Coan which doesn't take you anywhere near Walnut Pt.
If you look at the map, the distance from the Pt. Lookout turn to Lewisetta is less than a mile further than to Windmill Pt. marina on Smith Creek. So it is just a little further to get to the Coan but the next day the Coan to Smith Pt. is much shorter than Smith Creek to Smith Pt, probably about 3 miles shorter.
We're splittin' hairs here.
Pt. Lookout to the entrance of Smith is 6.3mi, plus another mile 'in'.
Pt. Lookout to the entrance of the Coan/Glebe is 7.3mi.

Yup, Coan to Smith Pt. is 3 miles shorter ... so get up 20-30 minutes earlier !!!!

I'd make my choice of either based on wind strength and direction, plus waves / seastate. The mouth of the Potomac can be 'real snotty' when the tides are contrary to one another (a hydraulic anomaly at the mouth of the Potomac) and the when winds are 'up' in the vicinity of Pt. Lookout to Smith Pt.
Pt. Lookout usually has the worst conditions (large standing waves) during such a hydraulic anomaly.

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I'm the sailboat across the creek, just to the north.

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