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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

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I could be wrong about all this, so I'm posting again to make my point as clear as possible. I hope I am wrong - feel free to show me where my errors are.

Yes, his numbers seem to agree with mine give or take an hour. And that hour difference can be explained by the effect of approximating the whole canal's current with a single number instead of NOAA's multiple stations. I'm probably guilty of over-complicating this by looking at too many current stations.


This is where you lose me, because James and I both show the current in the canal turning against us starting around 4 pm, and getting worse after that. Entering the canal between 4 and 5:30 pm looks to me like it would be the worst time. We'd be opposing the flood (eastward flow as James pointed out), not riding it.
[EDIT: Oops, I just realized that "ride the flood" probably refers to sailing down the Delaware, not through the canal. I agree that we want to get close to the canal entrance before the Delaware River current opposes us too strongly.]

While it would be nice to arrive before sunset, the Chesapeake City ebb helps us because it's toward the west. Arriving before 9:30 means fighting the current the whole way though the canal. After 9:30 the current favors us. The tradeoff is having to find a spot to anchor in pitch dark.

My concern is that when I run the numbers on my spreadsheet for your boat's motoring speed, arriving before dark looks to be impossible. So if we'll be in the dark anyway, we might as well take a break at Delaware City and wait it out for easy, fast motoring.

This is why I was so concerned about it. I can motor 5.5 kt SOW with ease, so my swing is 3.5 to 7.5 kts. 3.5 knots still mean a 3-4 hour transit for me. 2 knots could mean a 6 hour transit for you, which means you'll be effectively waiting out the current change while burning a lot of fuel.


I think I created much of the confusion of "flood" vs. "ebb," since it's defined in opposite directions on different current stations. But my NOAA predictions show that the current at the canal entrance goes against us from 4 pm to 9 or 10 pm, and with us after that. James' numbers show pretty much the same thing.

This whole analysis is a great learning experience for me, so thanks for guiding me through it. We've got 4 months to figure this out - I'll try not to take up the whole time with this exercise.
You guys may be ovethinking all this. You are certainly making my head swim

Rick I thought you had Navionics or any other program since you have your computer at the helm. It tell you tide and currents and vector arrows direction at specific spots along the way or even at your location.

I know how to figure out with Eldridge and all, but in todays world where I know you are comptuer savy there is an easier more efficient less time consuming way.
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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

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You guys may be ovethinking all this. You are certainly making my head swim...
I'm trying to be a good boy and reduce the hijacks. So please go to the other thread to see my response.
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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

Don't forget to reserve a slip for the band. Saturday's Child, 33-Morgan Out Island, 13-foot beam, 4-foot draft. If possible, something close to land so I can safely get all the music equipment off the boat.

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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

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Don't forget to reserve a slip for the band. Saturday's Child, 33-Morgan Out Island, 13-foot beam, 4-foot draft. If possible, something close to land so I can safely get all the music equipment off the boat.

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Gary, I already have you down. You were in my mid automatically my friend

Where they give you a slip will depend upon the availability and the draft depth size of the other vessels, and will be on the B pier somewhere probably on the first half ( I think thats where you were last year if I rememeber). I will be sure and let them know of your request.

There are lots of carts and will be help for you from some of the muscled up other SN memebrs I am sure. The surrounding community has placed a 10 PM noise ordinance, but we were at all loud last year so I dont think that will affect us.Already have double the number of people signed up at this time a year ago.
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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

Dave...

I think you could take our boat off the list for a slip
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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

Figured that.
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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

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when the hell did you get to 5,000 post? Must be OT crap
Yeah but only 1000 of them are worth anything. The Bounty thread. It had my interest for a long while....still does though its waning now that the hearinhs have concluded. have to wait for all the lawsuits now.

Also boredom in the winter plus Donnas been down living at her moms in Rockville three days a week taking care of her, Shes 91, living oin her home of 65 years,, god bless her.

Now that the covers coming off the boat in a few weeks Ill spend more time there and less here will give everyoie else a break too
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Re: 2013 5th Annual Sailnet Chesapeake Rondevous- June 8, 2013

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Dave...

I think you could take our boat off the list for a slip
I take it you decided on a new slip at MYC? If so, congrats!
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