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Re: Ready To Go Back In?

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We are on our third season with the Ultima 60 and it still looks good.

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3rd year! WOW! That makes me feel good...almost giddy! On our last boat we went between CSC, Micron Extra, and Micron 66 with varying results. I know last year when we pulled the boat after we sold it I was shocked at all the barnicles. When we pulled our new to us boat for the survey we told them not to even bother pressure washing it since it didn't need it and they don't do it for free. I found out the boat has always had Ultima 60 and that sold me.

Since we might stay in next winter I'm throwing a new coat on and doubling the waterline and leading edges.
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Yeah the Ultima 60 is worth it. Than T37chef for the tip. We do have a diver go down in April , June and Sept. since we get together with the other members of our club as a group and have it done it never exceeds $50 sometimes is &25. Diver is a good way to keep youaint fresh. Also use the petit spray on your prop.
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Re: Ready To Go Back In?

After two years my Pettit Vivid has worn off in several large areas, so it's time to redo the entire bottom. I see these great recommendations for Ultima SR60 and am tempted to switch. But I have a couple of questions:

With a 25 foot boat I'd like to paint it myself like I did 2 years ago. What are the issues that make Ultima SR60 difficult for DIY jobs? Is it just that you need to hand-stir it more often? (I can deal with that.) Or does it settle so fast that you need special equipment to keep it continually mixed. I have a couple mixers that work with electric drills, but that's a BAD idea (ka-boom!!!). I don't have any air-driven mixers (which would be needed for flammable paints). So it's important to know whether hand mixing can keep the copper suspended.

Also, I hear that SR60 is more effective because it's softer and sloughs off faster. Thanks to the river's tidal currents, my boat's SOW is ±2 knots, almost 24 hours a day while sitting in the slip. Will these currents slough off the SR60 too quickly?

I've been generally happy with Vivid in my fresh river water, but looking ahead I hope to be spending more time cruising into saltier areas, so might want something a little stronger.

I also know that once I go to a soft ablative, I can't easily go back to a harder coating, so want to make sure to do this right.
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I'm bringing mine up from HHS the 30th, getting it ready on the 23rd. See ya'll on the water.
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S-C, what's the 'new' name? Did you do the 'Neptune' thing?
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Great to see that Chuck...good luck with her.

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Re: Ready To Go Back In?

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After two years my Pettit Vivid has worn off in several large areas, so it's time to redo the entire bottom. I see these great recommendations for Ultima SR60 and am tempted to switch. But I have a couple of questions:

With a 25 foot boat I'd like to paint it myself like I did 2 years ago. What are the issues that make Ultima SR60 difficult for DIY jobs? Is it just that you need to hand-stir it more often? (I can deal with that.) Or does it settle so fast that you need special equipment to keep it continually mixed. I have a couple mixers that work with electric drills, but that's a BAD idea (ka-boom!!!). I don't have any air-driven mixers (which would be needed for flammable paints). So it's important to know whether hand mixing can keep the copper suspended.

Also, I hear that SR60 is more effective because it's softer and sloughs off faster. Thanks to the river's tidal currents, my boat's SOW is ±2 knots, almost 24 hours a day while sitting in the slip. Will these currents slough off the SR60 too quickly?

I've been generally happy with Vivid in my fresh river water, but looking ahead I hope to be spending more time cruising into saltier areas, so might want something a little stronger.

I also know that once I go to a soft ablative, I can't easily go back to a harder coating, so want to make sure to do this right.
The Ultima60 needs to be stirred a lot thats all. You should only put small amounts at a time in the roll pan.

In you situation I am not sure I would use the Ultima60 or 40 because of the current which is constant and swift where you dock. Do you ever have a diver go under the boat or do you? How much time will you spend in real salt water docked? Whats your boat look like when you take her out of the water every year before its pressure washed?
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Re: Ready To Go Back In?

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The Ultima60 needs to be stirred a lot thats all. You should only put small amounts at a time in the roll pan.

In you situation I am not sure I would use the Ultima60 or 40 because of the current which is constant and swift where you dock. Do you ever have a diver go under the boat or do you? How much time will you spend in real salt water docked? Whats your boat look like when you take her out of the water every year before its pressure washed?
I've thought about hiring a diver but never got around to it because performance was never noticeably bad.

At the end of the season when we haul out I have a thin, smooth layer of green slime just below the waterline, exdending down a about a foot below the waterline (presumably where sunlight is available). It washes off easily with my pressure washer, and in fact one of the nice things about Pettit Vivid is that it holds up very well to the pressure washer.

We've never had any barnacles or grass - just the smooth layer of slime that builds up during the season.

Hoping to get into the bay a couple times this year, for a total of 4-8 days. In addition to that, we do head south to the saltier parts of the river a couple times a year.

We are at mile 88 on the river. Today the salt line (250 mg/l chloride content) is at mile 70 (just north of Delaware Memorial Bridge). I think I have seen it get as high as mile 80 during a dry summer.
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I've thought about hiring a diver but never got around to it because performance was never noticeably bad.

At the end of the season when we haul out I have a thin, smooth layer of green slime just below the waterline, exdending down a about a foot below the waterline (presumably where sunlight is available). It washes off easily with my pressure washer, and in fact one of the nice things about Pettit Vivid is that it holds up very well to the pressure washer.

We've never had any barnacles or grass - just the smooth layer of slime that builds up during the season.

Hoping to get into the bay a couple times this year, for a total of 4-8 days. In addition to that, we do head south to the saltier parts of the river a couple times a year.

We are at mile 88 on the river. Today the salt line (250 mg/l chloride content) is at mile 70 (just north of Delaware Memorial Bridge). I think I have seen it get as high as mile 80 during a dry summer.
Sounds like because of your limited amount of time in a stagnant salt water environment docked , I might just stay put as it sounds successful.

Should you decide to move to the Chessie I would change to Micron Extra or one of the two Ultimas The constant current where you are may be a pain sometimes because of the trash it brings, but it also keeps the slime from forming. And you said no growth. Even at the waterline. You also don't have a prop in the water.

Maybe you could get a group of the sailors at your marina to go into together the same day in early July to get a diver to give you all a quick wipe to knock off the slime. When we do it like that the same day at our club it's $25-$50 a boat.
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...Should you decide to move to the Chessie I would change to Micron Extra or one of the two Ultimas The constant current where you are may be a pain sometimes because of the trash it brings, but it also keeps the slime from forming. And you said no growth. Even at the waterline. You also don't have a prop in the water.

Maybe you could get a group of the sailors at your marina to go into together the same day in early July to get a diver to give you all a quick wipe to knock off the slime. When we do it like that the same day at our club it's $25-$50 a boat.
Last year was remarkably debris-free. 2011 was pretty bad, starting with the April 17 noreaster that approached record high tide (washing years of debris off the river banks), and then Irene made it impossible to get out/in of the slip during ebb (huge wall of debris blocking me in).

I've thought about getting some people together, but the vast majority of sailboats in our marina are direlicts, or dreamy-eyed new owners who splash in May and never make it down the marina the rest of the year. There are 1-2 other actively used sailboats, so maybe this year we can do something. The local diver lives on a sailboat in our marina. He requires anchoring out in the harbor because the marina does not allow divers around the docks (death by electrocution and/or swept away in the current).
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