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So the if the plan is to transit through Delaware Bay rather than spend some time in my flesh eating bug infested, square wave home waters;

Plan your passage with regard to current, tide and wind. The current is not in phase with the tide with some locations close to 2 hours out off synch. The currents along the NJ side between Artifical Island, and Egg Island Shoal in about 20ft depth will run at about 2 knots for about 2 hours each cycle. A great dash if you catch it right with a wind out of the west or north, buggy if less than 5 knot breeze from the east and a bit to interesting if better than 10 knot out of the south.
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Udallah....good advice.

I lived in Ocean City for over 18 years and sailed on the Bay a lot of that time. While the green heads are a definate menace...there is no greater beauty than watching the birds in the Spring and fall fly down and up the North american flyway over that area. The salt marshes on the bayside of NJ on the lower Delaware Bay have some of the most beautiful natural vistas anywhere. If there were more marinas and places to pull in on this strech it might become a criosers paradise, but then again you would have the rash of boaters like there are sometimes on the Chesapeake.

Where else can you see the yearly spawning of one of the worlds longest surviving creature the horseshoe crab

Nothing meant disparriginly about where you sail...just stating the obvious challanges and advantages.

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Nothing disparaging about your remarks, the Delaware is what it is.

I would just ask anybody transiting through, spend an extra day or two and enjoy the wildlife; eagles, herons, turtles, rays, and the great variety of birds in the flyway.
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Chef2 has got most of it.

DONT travel the Del. Bay in a SE or NW 'blow' .... not unusual to see 6ft. 'trochodial' (very steep, fast period) chop.

Going SE (down) start from the Engineers Cove at Chesapeake City on the C&D 2+ hours BEFORE flood/slack .... and ride the wave almost all the way down.
Going NW (up) try to cross Eph Shoal AT Cape Point at ebb/slack (throw a stone onto beach as you go) ... then angle to the shipping channel and ride the tide wave almost all the way 'up'.
If you can keep 6kts. (in slack water) you will enter the C&D on an inflowing tide/current ... and arrive at slack at Ches. City then to ride the backside 'wave' down the Ches. Use your tide/current tables (Eldridge, etc.) for 'good' planning when running the C&D + Delaware.
The current in the C&D is out-of-phase with the Del + Ches. tides .... use the tide/current table info for the C&D PLUS the Del. River/Bay to plan your 'timing' .... gain an extra 2 to 2-1/2 kts SOG.

Either side of the ship channel is OK to run, few 'shallows'; especially on the NJ side of the ship channel is 'deeper'.

The Cohansey R. is a good 'hidey hole' but is very DEEP and has lots of current. When entering the Cohansey keep the GREEN outer marker to STARBOARD !!!! ... run 'close' to the outer GREEN. The 'normal' portside-to-green when entering is becoming shoal especially towards the small island to the east of the entrance. Visually READ the water at the entrance.

Beware of heavy rains in the Pocono Mts. or in NE Penna. as it sometimes greatly affects the 'amount' of (current) water coming down the Del. River. Use Easton or Reigelsville as your 'benchmark' flow station to monitor: Advanced Hydrologic Prediction Service: Philadelphia/Mount Holly click on the benchmark stations and then look at the MCFM value.

No need to follow the ship channel exactly ... you can cut the corner at the Salem Nuclear Station. Ship traffic has been unusually light on the Del. (& the Ches.) for the past few years. AIS (and or radar) is your friend if the visibility is low.

Fauna & Flora: GreenHeads are a spring/summer 'phenomenon' - get an 'electronic' fly-bat.
No-see-ums and other 'black flies' are equally bad in spring / early summer ..... DONT RUN YOUR ENGINE if there is NO wind and you are anchored, etc. !!!!!!!!
"Fuzzy head" midges emerge during the New Moon in spring thru early summer .... they will vomit a GREEN BLOB when then emerge and the GREEN is impossible to remove from sailcloth and will stain gelcoat - use your sail covers during such times. Fuzzy heads can contain/carry 'vibrio' (cholera).

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Chef2 has got most of it.

DONT travel the Del. Bay in a SE or NW 'blow' .... not unusual to see 6ft. 'trochodial' (very steep, fast period) chop.

Going SE (down) start from the Engineers Cove at Chesapeake City on the C&D 2+ hours BEFORE flood/slack .... and ride the wave almost all the way down.
Going NW (up) try to cross Eph Shoal AT Cape Point at ebb/slack (throw a stone onto beach as you go) ... then angle to the shipping channel and ride the tide wave almost all the way 'up'.
If you can keep 6kts. (in slack water) you will enter the C&D on an inflowing tide/current ... and arrive at slack at Ches. City then to ride the backside 'wave' down the Ches. Use your tide/current tables (Eldridge, etc.) for 'good' planning when running the C&D + Delaware.
The current in the C&D is out-of-phase with the Del + Ches. tides .... use the tide/current table info for the C&D PLUS the Del. River/Bay to plan your 'timing' .... gain an extra 2 to 2-1/2 kts SOG.

Either side of the ship channel is OK to run, few 'shallows'; especially on the NJ side of the ship channel is 'deeper'.

The Cohansey R. is a good 'hidey hole' but is very DEEP and has lots of current. When entering the Cohansey keep the GREEN outer marker to STARBOARD !!!! ... run 'close' to the outer GREEN. The 'normal' portside-to-green when entering is becoming shoal especially towards the small island to the east of the entrance. Visually READ the water at the entrance.

Beware of heavy rains in the Pocono Mts. or in NE Penna. as it sometimes greatly affects the 'amount' of (current) water coming down the Del. River. Use Easton or Reigelsville as your 'benchmark' flow station to monitor: Advanced Hydrologic Prediction Service: Philadelphia/Mount Holly click on the benchmark stations and then look at the MCFM value.

No need to follow the ship channel exactly ... you can cut the corner at the Salem Nuclear Station. Ship traffic has been unusually light on the Del. (& the Ches.) for the past few years. AIS (and or radar) is your friend if the visibility is low.

Fauna & Flora: GreenHeads are a spring/summer 'phenomenon' - get an 'electronic' fly-bat.
No-see-ums and other 'black flies' are equally bad in spring / early summer ..... DONT RUN YOUR ENGINE if there is NO wind and you are anchored, etc. !!!!!!!!
"Fuzzy head" midges emerge during the New Moon in spring thru early summer .... they will vomit a GREEN BLOB when then emerge and the GREEN is impossible to remove from sailcloth and will stain gelcoat - use your sail covers during such times. Fuzzy heads can contain/carry 'vibrio' (cholera).
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DONT travel the Del. Bay in a SE or NW 'blow' .... not unusual to see 6ft. 'trochodial' (very steep, fast period) chop..."Fuzzy head" midges emerge during the New Moon in spring thru early summer .... they will vomit a GREEN BLOB when then emerge and the GREEN is impossible to remove from sailcloth and will stain gelcoat - use your sail covers during such times. Fuzzy heads can contain/carry 'vibrio' (cholera).
O.K., you convinced me - I am going outside!
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Well, the goal (the whole purpose of asking the question) is that someday in the not too distant future, I'd like to cruise up to Maine in the summer. The photos of the sailing venues up there, are incredible.
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Looks like I will have the Delaware Bay to myself next year.

Vibrio is a common bacterial infection of shell fish in warm estuary waters. There was an outbreak in 2008 in Delaware Bay oysters that lasted about 2 weeks during a period of high water temperatures, NJDEP shut down the oyster harvest until water temperature dropped and oysters tested safe.

Farmed oysters are moved from low salt warm to high salt cooler sections of the bay during the growth cycle to reduce Vibrio infection (Vibrio does not thrive in higher salinity)

The Delaware Bay is the northern extreme of Vibrio and is a strain that for most people will cause intestinal discomfort but can be more serious for the those that are immune system compromised.

I have been bitten by the bugs and eat the raw Delaware Bay Salties and to the best of my knowledge do not have Cholera.

I am fortunate to have a wilderness lightly touched by European settlement so close.
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Are we still talking about New Jersey?
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It looks like a huge, shallow area with a very narrow channel. Can sailors safely navigate outside the channel to avoid being run down by large, commercial vessels, or is this not really a problem?
They're not so bad....



Taken somewhere near Ship John Shoal, Delaware Bay while on a delivery.

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