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I am pretty sure he meant the powerboater who ran over the pipe...
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Was that directed at me, for putting an off-topic comment in there?
I'm sure not. it was directed at the idiot captain that ran his boat between the 2 barges. he's right....you just can't fix stupid.

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Directed at the PB captain...you are fine./


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Re: Bay sailor needed - Deale to Quantico, VA

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Was that directed at me, for putting an off-topic comment in there?
Definitely my reflection on the fellow who ran over the pipe between the barges.

It's a great story and I entirely plan to appropriate it. *grin*

Jimgo's story is quite appropriate to the thread as on the Chesapeake we have lots of tugs and barges all over the place. The generally avoid the main channels as they don't want to mess with the big guys anymore than recreational sailors do. Sand barges are hauled up and down the Potomac and often on long tows the towline is submerged much of the time.

Still, hard to miss if you're paying the slightest bit of attention day or night.

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Re: Bay sailor needed - Deale to Quantico, VA

I can believe the guy tried to shot the gap between two barges. It sounds like Darwinism at work… Well, mixed with a good dose of stupid. However, nothing beats the YouTube video posted last month of the guy crossing in front of a tanker…

I’m still relatively new to sailing, but I’ve come to appreciate the use of radar on other people’s boats. There’s nothing like seeing a squall coming at night with plenty of time to react. When I get a bigger boat and start extending my cruising grounds I’ll make sure radar is onboard. However, AIS will come when it’s time to start crossing oceans. Can you go without it… Yeah, you can. However, I would never let it get me to a point of complacency. Tech fails when you need it the most. I found that out the hard way when insurgents in Iraq attacked us outside a city. The radio was the first thing to crap out. It was working fine and then nothing… I view all technology as one more tool in the tool belt. Redundancy. It should never be a primary means of navigation, but should back up charts and your dead reckoning. I would have said sextant, but that’s like voodoo or black magic to me!!
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Re: Bay sailor needed - Deale to Quantico, VA

It's amazing how much one emoticon would have expressed the sarcasm in my previous post. Sorry...I've read SVAuspicious's posts enough to know that it wasn't really aimed at me. But it was kind of funny! Glad the story could help add a bit of levity and hopefully a bit of insight.

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Some of you on this list may remember this..

Naval Academy Sailing | Naval Academy sailboat collides with barge, sinks - Baltimore Sun

..they tried to sail between the tug and barge on a dark and stormy night.

Bottom line..S&!t happens even to the best..

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... There’s nothing like seeing a squall coming at night with plenty of time to react...Redundancy...
You do not need radar to know about a squall. NOAA weather radio is great for warning about squalls, frontal passages, tornadoes, derechos, etc.. When the weather is "iffy", it is a good idea to play your dedicated portable weather radio constantly, (backed up on my boat by a shortwave (now) and 2 VHF radios, one portable and one fixed - all of which can receive NOAA weather broadcasts). You will know about the squall long before your short-range radar sees it. Some of these weather events, like derechos, are extremely fast moving, and you will be better off if you know far in advance when it will hit.

You will hear a warning signal, a description of the squall conditions, and its location, county by county as it approaches the Bay. The NOAA weather broadcast will also tell you at what time it is expected to hit your location. There is no reason to be caught unprepared when a squall hits or front comes through - immediately drop your sails, put on your foul weather gear, and start motoring, or put up your storm sails, or anchor and go belowdecks.

As an example, here is a video of a passage I took on the Potomac with the weather radio broadcasting in the background (no squall prediction):

It is also strangely comforting and slightly humorous to hear a computer-generated voice when you sail solo - some electronic companionship on your voyage. I have had a portable Weather One Weather Broadcast Receiver for a number of years - probably costs about $20 and it stays in the cockpit on all my trips.

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Re: Bay sailor needed - Deale to Quantico, VA

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It's amazing how much one emoticon would have expressed the sarcasm in my previous post. Sorry...I've read SVAuspicious's posts enough to know that it wasn't really aimed at me. But it was kind of funny! Glad the story could help add a bit of levity and hopefully a bit of insight.
That's kind of you, but I should be clear enough in every post that no one has to "know" me in order to understand me.

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Naval Academy Sailing | Naval Academy sailboat collides with barge, sinks - Baltimore Sun

..they tried to sail between the tug and barge on a dark and stormy night.

Bottom line..S&!t happens even to the best..
A friend of mine used to be a NASS coach. I sail the same waters with NASS and the midshipmen in YPs. The midshipmen may be training to be among the best but they aren't there yet. Probably not enough NCOs to keep them straight. *grin*

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Re: Bay sailor needed - Deale to Quantico, VA

The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals case on assumption of risk in sailboat racing, De Sole vs. U.S., also concerns an accident where the Naval Academy cadets are allegedly at fault:
947 F2d 1169 Sole v. United States | OpenJurist
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