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Re: Flares on the bay ?

CG always Monitors CH16 on the bay. I would never send out a MAY DAY on fishing channel like 78. 16 is for emergencies not chatter.
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

Tell me it ain't so...
Heard on the dock that expired flares are now considered a hazard
on board??? Doubtful, but nothing would surprise me when it comes to gov. regs. ...will ask the coasties as they use our
ramp to launch their small boats.
Every few years, when I have a captured audience, I take an expired flare or two and have the wife and adult kids fire them up
in the backyard not on the boat.
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

In Australia it is an offense to have on board out of date flares, even if you have in date ones as well.
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

I contacted the USCG Auxiliary to get more information about how to arrange a test-firing day. As part of that process, I perused the USCG web site, which strongly advised keeping the expired flares as back-up. Now, at some point, it may be considered a hazard. I'm sure 50 flares is probably excessive!

I have the flare kit from my old boat, plus the flares from the current boat. Together, I think I have 8-10 of the handgun style flares, plus a good 10-15 of the handheld. Most are expired, but some are current.
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

I've dropped old flares with the local fire department for proper disposal.
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

I shoot my flares on the 4th of july with all the other Illegal fire works.
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

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...I must say I wonder how helpful they would be where I boat, as the Hudson can be twisty in spots, and surrounded by mountains or hills....
FYI, I do not believe that flares are required on the Hudson River. Visual Distress Signals are not required in waterways less than 2nm wide or in bays whose entrances are less than 2 nm wide. See page 17 of USCG Publication 420 for details and a useful diagram.

I'm not sure, but I suspect that this might also eliminate inland lakes from the requirement, unless the local authority has a separate regulation requiring them (since most inland lakes are not in USCG jurisdiction).

This is my fourth season with my boat, and this past weelemd was the first time I've taken her into waters that required flares. By my unofficial chartplotter measurement, the Delaware River necks down to <2 nm at Artificial Island (Salem Nuclear Plant), so flares should not be required anywhere upstream from there (even though the river may widen to slightly >2 nm in some spots upstream from there).
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

Several years ago we heard a distress call at night from a boat on the Rappahannock stating his position as just south of the Norris bridge. We listened as TowboatUS tried to find him. Finally they asked him to fire a flare. Several minutes pass and TBUS asks again, boat in distress says he just fired a flare. Does it again and still is not seen. This went on 4 times before TBUS found him and then I'm not sure it was the flare or if they just finally stumbled on him. This is on a River with a good idea where to look for the boat. I can only imagine how much less effective they would be on the open bay, much less the ocean. I can see why SOLAS flares are mandated for offshore events.

Anyway, I keep my flares current, but I would go for my Q-Beam handheld spotlight if I wanted to let someone know where I was at night.
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

TakeFive, you are right about the USCG requirements for flares ending at the two mile wide point but since the Hudson River is under both NY and NJ jurisdiction, the USCG does not have the sole word.

Under NY laws all boats will be required to carry visual distress signals if they are operating at night. Under NJ laws, I have no idea. Same thing for your own home waters, state laws will apply.

Considering how many people get caught out after sunset, never intending to be there but having a mechanical failure and winding up in distress in the dark...No one really needs flares, sharks gotta eat too.
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Re: Flares on the bay ?

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...but not USCG approved..yet..
I like the laser flares. I wonder when they will be approved?
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