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View Poll Results: How much do you charge paying crew as a skipper a day
none free on board. 5 5.38%
$10 1 1.08%
$15 1 1.08%
$20 1 1.08%
$30 0 0%
$40 or more 21 22.58%
With No tinned fish or meat on the menu 20 21.51%
With No instant noodles or instant soup on the menu 21 22.58%
Do you do the midnight watch when paying crew are on board 0 0%
It is reasonable crew pay for the whole passage in advance and you hold their passports 23 24.73%
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Just came back after sailing with them for two months around Philippines, Palau and FSM. We did visit some incredible places, but if your health, time and money are important to you, then please think twice before joining them. Safety and sanitary conditions aboard were bad, diving wasn't organised properly, atmosphere was tedious, captain owes thousands of dollars to paying crew members, etc...

Please read the following articles, if you are considering to join the ................ The first one is the article wrtten, while he was still aboard and the second one is a proper review written by another ex crew member.

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It was that bad and you still stayed with them for two months?
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Hi,

Thanks for the info piclarke.

Do you know where to get information on similar boats? I have been looking for boats to join as crew without much luck. Maybe one of these boats would work for me.

Thanks,
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Sam,

After he claims the crew went unpaid and he had a miserable time and conditions were horrible you...want...to work for them?
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Ha. Im asking for "information on similar boats", meaning same concept BUT on a drama-free (and safe) boat.
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Looks like it really sucks:

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Sounds like that person needs to buy their own boat and go cruising. Apparently they think that paying 39 euros a day is expensive and at that price they should be able to lounge around in a hammock all day and not lift a finger. I don't know anything about this Expedition company but that "objective" review came across as anything but.

My advice would be to manage your expectations. If you chartered a boat with a captain and a hired crew you have every right to demand everything to be shipshape and that your champagne isn't too warm. If you pay to crew on a boat things are going to be different. One cost a lot more than the other.
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Hi,

Thanks for the info piclarke.

Do you know where to get information on similar boats? I have been looking for boats to join as crew without much luck. Maybe one of these boats would work for me.

Thanks,
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I have travelled with the below company and highly recommend them. They will charge more than 39 Euro a day.

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After reading the whole review Piclarke I have to say that in deed it looks like you had very different expectations.

Reading things like:
- "I am never a victim of these laborious activities and I’m diligently boycotting such exploitation (lying on the foredeck with a good book in my hands)"
- "I do not owe anything to Infinity, and do not have to do anything if I don’t feel like it."

It just makes it clear that you were looking for a holiday cruise and nothing to do with being involved on the boat, participate and learn. I also read Infinity Expeditions website and (whether u like it or not) it says very clearly that you are expected to works and be involved in maintaining the boat. The fact that you pay 30euros/day (or whatever it is) doesn't automatically make you a guest that only works when you feel like it. You agreed to certain conditions when you joined, especially one "the captain has the last word".

I think you are right writing a review saying what you thought but encouraging people not to join just because you had different expectations, seems a bit unfair in my opinion.
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